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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>brundlefly wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey there, Jonas. Recognized your username from old CW forum days. Haven&#039;t seen you around for many years so presume you moved on to another DAW...?</p></blockquote></div><p>I’ve been using Reaper and I’m<br />happy with it.&nbsp; That said, when I occasionally launch Sonar, my muscle memory kicks in immediately.&nbsp; </p><p>I released a jazz project last year along with my writing partner, James Lownes.</p><p>Glad to run into old aquaintances!</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey there, Jonas. Recognized your username from old CW forum days. Haven&#039;t seen you around for many years so presume you moved on to another DAW...?</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>vorpal wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>dikrek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> Nice. What did you set it to in order to avoid the issue?</p></blockquote></div><p>Checked my settings, I went a bit more to 0.18. I like the color of the unisons with that setting, any further out and I&#039;m reaching for the tuning lever <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>For fun, I froze the settings and loaded the Bechstein DG, one of my favorites, but this didn&#039;t sound as good as the NY Steinway D with these mods.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m not a piano tuner, and my acoustic piano is typically tuned 1-2 times per year, so my tolerance for a bit of beating is likely greater than yours ;-D</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dikrek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> Nice. What did you set it to in order to avoid the issue?</p></blockquote></div><p>Checked my settings, I went a bit more to 0.18. I like the color of the unisons with that setting, any further out and I&#039;m reaching for the tuning lever <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>For fun, I froze the settings and loaded the Bechstein DG, one of my favorites, but this didn&#039;t sound as good as the NY Steinway D with these mods.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-12-31T03:29:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dikrek wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Adje wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Same here with the condition slider….. 0.22 sounds<br />comfortable to me. The other suggested tweaks<br />are great; thanks.</p></blockquote></div><p>Can these be done on standard or do they need Pro?</p></blockquote></div><p>I believe Pianoteq 8 STD is sufficient.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Adje wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Same here with the condition slider….. 0.22 sounds<br />comfortable to me. The other suggested tweaks<br />are great; thanks.</p></blockquote></div><p>Can these be done on standard or do they need Pro?</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Same here with the condition slider….. 0.22 sounds<br />comfortable to me. The other suggested tweaks<br />are great; thanks.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-12-30T19:17:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dikrek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Nice. What did you set it to in order to avoid the issue?</p></blockquote></div><p>I moved the condition slider about halfway back to New while testing the C unison until I liked it... not sure what the value was, will check when I&#039;m home tonight.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>vorpal wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>jsaras wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Firstly, some general settings that can be applied to nearly all Pianoteq models to eliminate the perfect “McPiano” syndrome.&nbsp; Set the condition slider to around 0.47 and set the octave spread to about 1.18.</p><p>For the spectrum profile of the Steinway D models specifically, set the second harmonic to -4.3 and the third harmonic to +0.6.&nbsp; This really gets the Steinway sound profile as I hear it in my mind&#039;s imagination.&nbsp; &nbsp;(h/t Merriam Music). </p><p>For hammer hardness I use 0.3, 0.81, 1.57.</p><p>Give it a try and let me know what you think.</p></blockquote></div><p>I loaded the Modartt Steinway D preset and then made the changes you listed... I quite like it! However, I&#039;m a piano tuner and found with the condition slider set to 0.47 the middle C4 unison was very wild, I moved it back a bit.</p></blockquote></div><p>Nice. What did you set it to in order to avoid the issue?</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jsaras wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Firstly, some general settings that can be applied to nearly all Pianoteq models to eliminate the perfect “McPiano” syndrome.&nbsp; Set the condition slider to around 0.47 and set the octave spread to about 1.18.</p><p>For the spectrum profile of the Steinway D models specifically, set the second harmonic to -4.3 and the third harmonic to +0.6.&nbsp; This really gets the Steinway sound profile as I hear it in my mind&#039;s imagination.&nbsp; &nbsp;(h/t Merriam Music). </p><p>For hammer hardness I use 0.3, 0.81, 1.57.</p><p>Give it a try and let me know what you think.</p></blockquote></div><p>I loaded the Modartt Steinway D preset and then made the changes you listed... I quite like it! However, I&#039;m a piano tuner and found with the condition slider set to 0.47 the middle C4 unison was very wild, I moved it back a bit.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have tried first two settings as far (condition and octave stretching) and for me pianos sound better, far more realistic. Less (unwanted) digital perfection and more interesting real resonances. Thanks!</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, some general settings that can be applied to nearly all Pianoteq models to eliminate the perfect “McPiano” syndrome.&nbsp; Set the condition slider to around 0.47 and set the octave spread to about 1.18.</p><p>For the spectrum profile of the Steinway D models specifically, set the second harmonic to -4.3 and the third harmonic to +0.6.&nbsp; This really gets the Steinway sound profile as I hear it in my mind&#039;s imagination.&nbsp; &nbsp;(h/t Merriam Music). </p><p>For hammer hardness I use 0.3, 0.81, 1.57.</p><p>Give it a try and let me know what you think.</p>]]></content>
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