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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jsaras wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I find the K2 sounding particularly good with the latest update.&nbsp; &nbsp; Set the &quot;condition&quot; slider set to about 0.30 and the octave stretch to the neighborhood of 1.2 and be be prepared to smile.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks.&nbsp; Tried K2 and did not like the &quot;mint&quot; condition.&nbsp; Tried it again with your suggestion about &quot;condition&quot; and much nicer.<br />That being said, I went with the Steingraeber and really like all its moods.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I find the K2 sounding particularly good with the latest update.&nbsp; &nbsp; Set the &quot;condition&quot; slider set to about 0.30 and the octave stretch to the neighborhood of 1.2 and be be prepared to smile.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-12-20T16:31:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New to Pianoteq8, what "modern" keyboard pac to use?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi. <br />Welcome to Pianoteq Forum :-)</p><p>Please don&#039;t forget to install the pianoteq KiVir project (historic instruments pack) instruments. They are free, but was made with as much care and love as the other instruments.</p><p>You can also download the demo/trial version of Organteq version 2, which<br />now have historic organs.&nbsp; </p><p>About the modern grand pianos, the latest two models, Bosendorfer 280 VC and Kawai Shigeru SK-EX, represents the best achivements of Modartt so far in recreating natural sound feeling.<br />Don&#039;t forget to upgradd to V8.4</p><p>Be free to ask help with any doubt.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>kevingm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I bought the &quot;standard&quot; PianoTeq8 with Karsten, Kremsegg 1 &amp; 2 because I intended to work through my large library of sheet music (7K+) on the appropriate period instruments and also to branch out and explore more of the early clavichord and virginal work from MuseScore.&nbsp; &nbsp;Well, it&#039;s been addictive to say the least and now I want more. </p><p>I have some modern keyboard sounds from FL Studio 2024 but don&#039;t like the sound as much as Pianoteq provides.&nbsp; &nbsp;In &quot;real&quot; life, I normally play a 5&#039;6&quot; Knabe grand (vintage 1917, so still be &quot;hand&quot; made) but with all new action etc. and a lovely &quot;bel canto&quot; sound.&nbsp; I have 5 decades of experience on keyboards including pipe organs.</p><p>I use the Pianoteq on a FLKey61.</p><p>Which of the Pianoteq &quot;modern&quot; instrument packs should I purchase.&nbsp; I&#039;m leaning towards the Bosendorfer.&nbsp; (I do not like the Yamaha sound). I&#039;ll be using it for &quot;modern&quot; Jazz, incidental, cinematic, and experimental music mostly.&nbsp; I&#039;m more interested in improv and performance rather than &quot;production&quot;.</p><p>Suggestions?<br />Kevin Minerley</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><p>Thanks!&nbsp; Downloading KiVir was one of the first things I did after purchase.&nbsp; Very pleased with it.&nbsp; Yes, I&#039;m running the latest copy.<br />Kevin</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-12-18T23:50:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: New to Pianoteq8, what "modern" keyboard pac to use?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Coises wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>kevingm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Suggestions?</p></blockquote></div><p>If you haven’t kept up with updates, be sure to get the latest one (8.4) so you can try the newest model, the Shigeru Kawai SK-EX. It really is lovely. I think it makes a very good “general purpose” modern piano. To my ears, it has a <em>lot</em> of sustain (which occasionally makes me have to pay some extra attention to the lead foot I usually have on the pedal). (The polar opposite of that — again, to my ears — is the Steingraeber, which has a lot of “definition” relative to the sustain, almost toward upright territory, but still with the full bass of a grand.)</p><p>It doesn’t really matter which you pick, because you’re not going to stop at one.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for the tips!&nbsp; I hadn&#039;t even thought of the Steingraeber,&nbsp; I&#039;m trying it now and liking it a lot.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>FWIW, you&#039;re correct -&nbsp; this isn&#039;t going to stop at one.</p><p>Kevin</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-12-18T23:46:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>vorpal wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>kevingm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m leaning towards the Bosendorfer.&nbsp; (I do not like the Yamaha sound).</p></blockquote></div><p>As a piano tech, I find that interesting as Yamaha has owned Bosendorfer since 2008 and have definitely been influenced by them in their CFX concert piano design. They are not the same sound but I do find them in the similar &#039;tonal palette&#039;. </p><p>Purely subjective call on the instruments... although I like the Bechstein and Shigeru Kawai which are the newer modelled pianos from Modartt.</p></blockquote></div><p>&nbsp; </p><p>Thanks!&nbsp; I am remembering a &quot;real&quot; Bosendorfer from the &#039;60s,&nbsp; I hadn&#039;t realized Yamaha bought out Bosendorfer.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi. <br />Welcome to Pianoteq Forum :-)</p><p>Please don&#039;t forget to install the pianoteq KiVir project (historic instruments pack) instruments. They are free, but was made with as much care and love as the other instruments.</p><p>You can also download the demo/trial version of Organteq version 2, which<br />now have historic organs.&nbsp; </p><p>About the modern grand pianos, the latest two models, Bosendorfer 280 VC and Kawai Shigeru SK-EX, represents the best achivements of Modartt so far in recreating natural sound feeling.<br />Don&#039;t forget to upgradd to V8.4</p><p>Be free to ask help with any doubt.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>kevingm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I bought the &quot;standard&quot; PianoTeq8 with Karsten, Kremsegg 1 &amp; 2 because I intended to work through my large library of sheet music (7K+) on the appropriate period instruments and also to branch out and explore more of the early clavichord and virginal work from MuseScore.&nbsp; &nbsp;Well, it&#039;s been addictive to say the least and now I want more. </p><p>I have some modern keyboard sounds from FL Studio 2024 but don&#039;t like the sound as much as Pianoteq provides.&nbsp; &nbsp;In &quot;real&quot; life, I normally play a 5&#039;6&quot; Knabe grand (vintage 1917, so still be &quot;hand&quot; made) but with all new action etc. and a lovely &quot;bel canto&quot; sound.&nbsp; I have 5 decades of experience on keyboards including pipe organs.</p><p>I use the Pianoteq on a FLKey61.</p><p>Which of the Pianoteq &quot;modern&quot; instrument packs should I purchase.&nbsp; I&#039;m leaning towards the Bosendorfer.&nbsp; (I do not like the Yamaha sound). I&#039;ll be using it for &quot;modern&quot; Jazz, incidental, cinematic, and experimental music mostly.&nbsp; I&#039;m more interested in improv and performance rather than &quot;production&quot;.</p><p>Suggestions?<br />Kevin Minerley</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-12-18T23:35:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kevingm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Suggestions?</p></blockquote></div><p>If you haven’t kept up with updates, be sure to get the latest one (8.4) so you can try the newest model, the Shigeru Kawai SK-EX. It really is lovely. I think it makes a very good “general purpose” modern piano. To my ears, it has a <em>lot</em> of sustain (which occasionally makes me have to pay some extra attention to the lead foot I usually have on the pedal). (The polar opposite of that — again, to my ears — is the Steingraeber, which has a lot of “definition” relative to the sustain, almost toward upright territory, but still with the full bass of a grand.)</p><p>It doesn’t really matter which you pick, because you’re not going to stop at one.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kevingm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m leaning towards the Bosendorfer.&nbsp; (I do not like the Yamaha sound).</p></blockquote></div><p>As a piano tech, I find that interesting as Yamaha has owned Bosendorfer since 2008 and have definitely been influenced by them in their CFX concert piano design. They are not the same sound but I do find them in the similar &#039;tonal palette&#039;. </p><p>Purely subjective call on the instruments... although I like the Bechstein and Shigeru Kawai which are the newer modelled pianos from Modartt.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I bought the &quot;standard&quot; PianoTeq8 with Karsten, Kremsegg 1 &amp; 2 because I intended to work through my large library of sheet music (7K+) on the appropriate period instruments and also to branch out and explore more of the early clavichord and virginal work from MuseScore.&nbsp; &nbsp;Well, it&#039;s been addictive to say the least and now I want more. </p><p>I have some modern keyboard sounds from FL Studio 2024 but don&#039;t like the sound as much as Pianoteq provides.&nbsp; &nbsp;In &quot;real&quot; life, I normally play a 5&#039;6&quot; Knabe grand (vintage 1917, so still be &quot;hand&quot; made) but with all new action etc. and a lovely &quot;bel canto&quot; sound.&nbsp; I have 5 decades of experience on keyboards including pipe organs.</p><p>I use the Pianoteq on a FLKey61.</p><p>Which of the Pianoteq &quot;modern&quot; instrument packs should I purchase.&nbsp; I&#039;m leaning towards the Bosendorfer.&nbsp; (I do not like the Yamaha sound). I&#039;ll be using it for &quot;modern&quot; Jazz, incidental, cinematic, and experimental music mostly.&nbsp; I&#039;m more interested in improv and performance rather than &quot;production&quot;.</p><p>Suggestions?<br />Kevin Minerley</p>]]></content>
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