Modartt user forum - Are you sleeping ????????

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (feline1) — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:24:11 +0000

lol
A real clavinet has plastic keys with metal springs on.
And the hammer stays in contact with the string while you hold the note and you can (just about) feel the string vibrating.
Nasty

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (Beto-Music) — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 00:34:03 +0000

I see... a piano action it's not bad enough for you.

At least for a clavinet... ;-)

feline1 wrote:

Oh, by the way, my Big Tip for using the clavinet model is:
Play it on a semi-weighted MIDI keyboard, not a piano action.
The real clavinet's keyboard is nothing like a piano!

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (feline1) — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:05:21 +0000

Oh, by the way, my Big Tip for using the clavinet model is:
Play it on a semi-weighted MIDI keyboard, not a piano action.

The real clavinet's keyboard is nothing like a piano!

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (Cellomangler) — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:00:24 +0000

I know software ampsim plugins are preferred by most, but as a guitarist I have accumulated some pedals that are real nice with all the Pianoteq sounds. My most recent favs are the Tech 21 Character series which have cabinet modeling built in and sound great direct into a PA or for recording. There is the Blonde -for the Fender sound, the Liverpool (my fav) -for the Vox and several more. I like the VT Bass (Ampeg) pedal for the low end of acoustic pianos to add some beef -not over-the-top distortion. Just another alternative if you don't want to tax your 'puter, particularly for a live gig...

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (Mark Williams) — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:02:13 +0000

Ecaroh wrote:

Anyway I've been looking for good amp models for E-pianos; Well, not very thoroughly but still.
(Mac is my main environment and logic also)

I'm a Logic user, too, and the amp sims in the included Amp Designer are, in my opinion, wonderful. I also use POD Farm (Platinum) in addition, but i do think Amp Designer stands on its own very, very well, particularly with clean tones.

Depending on what you're trying to accomplish sonically, I agree with feline1, and think he's right on. A great place to start is a Fender blackface or silverface amp. They're definitely my favorites for electric pianos. Try a Twin emulation, try a Deluxe Reverb emulation, try even a Champ emulation. But you can also get really usable tones out of a Vox-style amp. The top end is a bit different, but it can sound really nice in the right context.

Anyways, there are lots of options out there, and some very, very usable tones can be achieved. Feel free to ask more if you need to.

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (EvilDragon) — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:42:46 +0000

If only you didn't mention Mac, I might've had some good FREE ampsims for you. Alas, they're all VST. If you can wrap them somehow, you can try...

www.acmebargig.com (latest Shred is insanely flexible!)
http://lepouplugins.blogspot.com

These absolutely ROCK!

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (Ecaroh) — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:31:54 +0000

EvilDragon wrote:

Ecaroh wrote:
but those free plugins
Which free plugins?

Maybe there's no free meal I meant mainly amp models from sequencer softwares like logic express (in Logic studio I think there're good ones) or Sonar. Or maybe it's user who cannot make them sound right...? Anyway I've been looking for good amp models for E-pianos; Well, not very thoroughly but still.

(Mac is my main environment and logic also)

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (feline1) — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:29:18 +0000

The traditional recommendation for 'which amp should I use with my clavinet?' is the Fender Twin Reverb.

I dunno what emulations of that are out there.

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (olepro) — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:50:02 +0000

http://www.simulanalog.org/guitarsuite.htm
http://free-plugin-list.com/plugin.php?id=365
http://www.wavosaur.com/vst/amp-sim-plugins.php
http://www.audiomastermind.com/detail-x_amp-11422.html

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (EvilDragon) — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:35:09 +0000

Ecaroh wrote:

but those free plugins

Which free plugins?

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (Ecaroh) — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:48:02 +0000

feline1 wrote:

As with a real clavinet, to really get killer sounds, you got drive it through a good amp, but there are plenty of good VST amps out there to use!

Feline, what would you suggest for an amp model with CL1? I haven't put any money for any amp model but those free plugins I have tested didn't sound very good to my ears. This question is also with E-pianos: how to find a good tubelike drive for them?

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (skip) — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:59:42 +0000

I'm not a clav afficionado but I can instantly recognise the Pianoteq clav sound too, FWIW.

In Sherbet's "Howzat", how are the attacks of the chords created? E.g - at 9s and 18s, the chords have a really cool sound in their attacks. Ignore the clav bassline - I am referring only to the chords.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFQ7d3GqEE

Greg.

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (feline1) — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:08:38 +0000

Oh and the sustain pedal is a wonderful innovation!

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (mooks) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:50:49 +0000

I used to find the clav sounds on old sample based keyboards so musically uninspiring, most likely due to them having just one velocity layer. But the new Pianoteq add-on brought a big smile to my face - so much more life to the sound. A joy to play. Now I understand why these instruments are true classics.

Re: Are you sleeping ????????

null@example.com (feline1) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:48:01 +0000

Yes indeed

Now that it is released, we are allowed to talk about it.
(You will appreciate that if somebody happened to be beta-testing it, they would not have been able to talk about it publically before release...

I think the emulation is splendid. I own a Hohner D6, and the basic sound of it, the envelope of the notes, the behaviour of the hammers, etc etc, is instantly recognisable as being a 'clavinet'

The extension of the pitch range is musically very useful (the low D can be quite marvellously nasty

As with a real clavinet, to really get killer sounds, you got drive it through a good amp, but there are plenty of good VST amps out there to use!