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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BlackForest wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You said you&#039;re using a laptop, right, not an iPad? IPad would make it easier to run without a big power bank with a 110 /230 V outlet. Like Jackery or ecoflow have.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t understand. An iPad would make WHAT easier to run? The keyboard? I mean I can already run the laptop (Microsoft Surface Pro) without AC outlet. I just need a solution to run a USB audio enabled keyboard, such as the Roland FP-30X, without an AC outlet.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You said you&#039;re using a laptop, right, not an iPad? IPad would make it easier to run without a big power bank with a 110 /230 V outlet. Like Jackery or ecoflow have.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-18T04:05:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>larrycalame wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m in search of a gigging PTQ keyboard. Portability is critical. The ideal candidate will meet all the following criteria:</p><p>1. 88 keys <br />2. decent action&nbsp; <br />3. lightweight (ideally 30 lbs. or less)<br />4. USB audio<br />5. detachable music rest (on which would sit my Microsoft Surface Pro tablet running PTQ) <br />6. onboard amplifier/speaker system <br />7. stereo line outs <br />8. battery operation available </p><p>The closest match of which I&#039;m aware is the Roland FP-30X. Its only deficiency is that it cannot run on batteries.<br />I am currently gigging with a Casio PX-S5000. It meets all the above criteria except for USB Audio, which makes it impractical for me to use with PTQ, so I &quot;settle&quot; for its built in piano tone. It&#039;s very good but it&#039;s not PTQ. </p><p>Any ideas?</p><p>TIA, Larry</p></blockquote></div><p>UPDATE: Both the Roland RD88 and the less expensive FP90X have USB audio, but they will only work for me if I can find a way to use them where there is no AC outlet. I&#039;m exploring options such as this. <a href="https://www.ravpower.com/products/ravpower-ac-power-bank-30000mah-100w150w-max-ac-outlet-2023?currency=USD&amp;variant=40113210032203&amp;stkn=d03c819d7400&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw0aS3BhA3EiwAKaD2ZYbaIbg8RMZbpXGOhquE8zhb-FGy0yC79rnBFadHB2lA1O7scPYT_RoCOtMQAvD_BwE">https://www.ravpower.com/products/ravpo...tMQAvD_BwE</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-17T23:00:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Sanderxpander wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>budo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i just wanted to address the portability issue.&nbsp; for me that issue disappeared once i had a sturdy flight case and a hand truck.&nbsp; pretty much anything is portable with a hand truck <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>I gigged for 10 years with a Korg Kronos 88 and a flightcase and a hand truck. It&#039;s doable, especially &quot;driving&quot; it on flat ground, but the whole thing weighed around 35kg. The RD88 weighs 13kg and still has a full weighted keybed. I have it in a very well made and snug fitting Casio bag, probably weighs 14/15kg. I just pick it up with one hand and am good to go, it also has backpack-style straps <em>and</em> a shoulder strap. I had the Kronos in a van for most of those 10 years and that&#039;s fine, you just tip it in and slide the rest over the hardwood floor. Now I have a family station wagon and I&#039;d basically destroy it if I did the same. The Roland in a bag is much friendlier to the upholstery.</p><p>I don&#039;t mean to evangelise the RD 88 specifically, it has to fit your needs and you have to like the somewhat heavy action, but I definitely understand the portability issue.</p></blockquote></div><p>Both the Roland RD-88 and the less expensive FP-30X have USB audio, so they will work for me, but only if I can find a way to use them where there is no AC outlet. I&#039;m exploring options such as this <a href="https://www.ravpower.com/products/ravpower-ac-power-bank-30000mah-100w150w-max-ac-outlet-2023?currency=USD&amp;variant=40113210032203&amp;stkn=d03c819d7400&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw0aS3BhA3EiwAKaD2ZYbaIbg8RMZbpXGOhquE8zhb-FGy0yC79rnBFadHB2lA1O7scPYT_RoCOtMQAvD_BwE">https://www.ravpower.com/products/ravpo...tMQAvD_BwE</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-17T22:57:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>budo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i just wanted to address the portability issue.&nbsp; for me that issue disappeared once i had a sturdy flight case and a hand truck.&nbsp; pretty much anything is portable with a hand truck <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>I gigged for 10 years with a Korg Kronos 88 and a flightcase and a hand truck. It&#039;s doable, especially &quot;driving&quot; it on flat ground, but the whole thing weighed around 35kg. The RD88 weighs 13kg and still has a full weighted keybed. I have it in a very well made and snug fitting Casio bag, probably weighs 14/15kg. I just pick it up with one hand and am good to go, it also has backpack-style straps <em>and</em> a shoulder strap. I had the Kronos in a van for most of those 10 years and that&#039;s fine, you just tip it in and slide the rest over the hardwood floor. Now I have a family station wagon and I&#039;d basically destroy it if I did the same. The Roland in a bag is much friendlier to the upholstery.</p><p>I don&#039;t mean to evangelise the RD 88 specifically, it has to fit your needs and you have to like the somewhat heavy action, but I definitely understand the portability issue.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-16T18:45:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i just wanted to address the portability issue.&nbsp; for me that issue disappeared once i had a sturdy flight case and a hand truck.&nbsp; pretty much anything is portable with a hand truck <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-16T15:39:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I use a Roland RD-88. The touch is quite heavy but I personally don&#039;t mind, and the internal speakers are of course pretty bad but they work in a pinch. It&#039;s light and the USB Audio thing is solid. Not the lowest latency but never had any problems with it and I like having a physical volume control on it. Reasonably priced for what it is.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-16T13:28:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>larrycalame wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Borealis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There is the Yamaha CK88, but it&#039;s the GHS action.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you. Yamaha has a reputation for quite heavy action, but it might just work out. <br />My other option might be the Roland FP-30X which meets all my criteria except battery operation and costs about $800 less.</p></blockquote></div><p>Alas, the CK88 lacks a music rest, which I would use to situate my laptop running PTQ, so I think the FP-30X remains my best option, especially if there is a convenient way to power it via USB.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-14T06:30:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BlackForest wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What about the FP10, instead of the more expensive FP30?</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks, but the FP-10 does not have USB audio</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-14T06:27:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BlackForest wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>larrycalame wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Borealis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There is the Yamaha CK88, but it&#039;s the GHS action.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you. Yamaha has a reputation for quite heavy action, but it might just work out. <br />My other option might be the Roland FP-30X which meets all my criteria except battery operation and costs about $800 less.</p></blockquote></div><p>The battery issue might be solved by a good USB power bank (preferably PD, power device up to 45W)&nbsp; and THIS:&nbsp; </p><p>CORRECTION: </p><p><a href="https://myvolts.com/product/78689/myVolts_USB-C_PD_Step_Up_Tip_12V_c+ve_2.1mm_2.5mm">https://myvolts.com/product/78689/myVol....1mm_2.5mm</a></p><br /><p>The PSB-5U is the original AC converter of the FP10, but this item also fits the bigger 7U of the FP30x.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for the reply. How does the power thing work? Does it simply allow the laptop on which I&#039;m running PTQ to power the keyboard?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-14T06:26:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>larrycalame wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Borealis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There is the Yamaha CK88, but it&#039;s the GHS action.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you. Yamaha has a reputation for quite heavy action, but it might just work out. <br />My other option might be the Roland FP-30X which meets all my criteria except battery operation and costs about $800 less.</p></blockquote></div><p>The battery issue might be solved by a good USB power bank (preferably PD, power device up to 45W)&nbsp; and THIS:&nbsp; </p><p>CORRECTION: </p><p><a href="https://myvolts.com/product/78689/myVolts_USB-C_PD_Step_Up_Tip_12V_c+ve_2.1mm_2.5mm">https://myvolts.com/product/78689/myVol....1mm_2.5mm</a></p><br /><p>The PSB-5U is the original AC converter of the FP10, but this item also fits the bigger 7U of the FP30x.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-12T09:37:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What about the FP10, instead of the more expensive FP30?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-12T09:29:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Borealis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There is the Yamaha CK88, but it&#039;s the GHS action.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you. Yamaha has a reputation for quite heavy action, but it might just work out. <br />My other option might be the Roland FP-30X which meets all my criteria except battery operation and costs about $800 less.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-12T06:56:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi Larry,<br />Unless busking - walking for miles? - <br />I believe you should change your parameters - internal speakers are all relatively awful.</p><p>If at all feasible in your scenario instead for portability maybe look into a good sack truck/equipment trolley and quality instrument kit cases to hold your gear. </p><p>Keep the existing keyboard. <br /> You should not be after the internal speakers for gigging, those are really for the player in private, strictly a nearfield listening experience. Yes the more expensive ones can project a bit more but that&#039;s certainly not what they&#039;re designed for - and I wouldn&#039;t include anything lightweight or portable in that list anyway. The kind of high end digital pianos with slightly better sound are all going to be much heavier (big magnets/motor systems are heavy!). </p><p>For modest size small venues much better to buy a good set of active monitors with decent size bass/mid drivers and fairly large wave guide for the treble units, speaker stands and a sound interface and say an iPad or reasonably powerful laptop.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks, but portability is critical for me - meaning I want to keep the amount of equipment to shlepp around and setup at a minimum. I currently have built in speakers on my battery powered Casio PX-S5000, but I supplement them with my Roland BA-330. The combination works fine for any venue I&#039;m likely to play in, and the BA-300 also runs on batteries and doubles as my bench! It&#039;s perfect in every way but one - it&#039;s not PTQ,&nbsp; Another user mentioned the Yamaha CK88, which looks like it might be a candidate, as it appears to meet all the criteria I listed.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-12T06:53:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There is the Yamaha CK88, but it&#039;s the GHS action.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-09-11T09:36:26Z</updated>
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