I have flirted with Pianoteq for years. What I have always struggled with is the nasal and twaaang quality of the mid register (playing a C chord from the central C produces a nauseating nasal meaow, especially the Model D). I have tried correcting it, but never managed to really fix the timbre. I know a lot of people don't mind but this is my experience.

This Boesendorfer? It doesn't have that problem. It really is something else. I detuned some keys a bit, adjusted the hammer noise here and there, stretched the octaves a bit more and I found my perfect sound. Kudos. Really.

Bösendorfer 280VC - is incredible with Apple Logic 11 Chromaverb :

Soul for Chopin Nocturnes

https://youtu.be/Tt0ZuD7AUJw?feature=shared

Now, i need new PTQ Steinway(s) like this !!!!!! with the magical Bell

But there is still a attack strange feeling in Pianoteq even with 280VC

i often prefer to use sample library + Pianoteq only for resonance with script in Logic 11 :

To compare With the VSL D-274 (velocity curve fixed) and with Pianoteq 8 for resonances (SSR/SUSTAIN) and releases   :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6goKTEMAZ68

But my Yamaha N1X doesn't have note off velocity, but polyphonic aftertouch for the release...

I don't think these messages really are meant as polyphonic aftertouch. Instead it's misinterpreted "Damper position"-messages. If you switch the MIDI dialect in Pianoteq to Disklavier XP those messages will turn into "Damper position". However the standard MIDI dialect doesn't support damper position so the messages shows as "Aftertouch".

But whatever dialect you choose they will have no effect in Pianoteq. Great idea to convert the messages into Note-off velocity.

And great playing, thank you for sharing!

Have you tried the morphing tool to create a hybrid between Steinway-D and Bosendorfer 280VC?

I wonder if Steinway will get countless upgrades, or if in a given time, as pianoteq evolve, it may be better to create a whole new Steinway-D model.

Soul for Chopin Nocturnes

https://youtu.be/Tt0ZuD7AUJw?feature=shared

Now, i need new PTQ Steinway(s) like this !!!!!! with the magical Bell

Olivier W wrote:

Hi,

Can you add in Pianoteq a polyphonic aftertouch option that can control NOTE OFF Velocity ?

I also have a Yamaha system which sends polyphonic aftertouch while releasing the key.
Instead of converting polyphonic aftertouch into note-off velocity, it would be more accurate if Modartt  muted the sound accordingly to the PA value.

What is nice with how Yamaha implements this is that it sends note-off anyway with constant velocity = 64.
Poly-aftertouch is only emitted when releasing the key slowly.
So adding a feature to mute the string according to PA would not interfere with how PianoTeq currently manages sound damping.

my script in Logic 11 :

// Convert Yamaha N1X - Clavinova Polyphonic Aftertouch (20 to 32) release to Note Off-Velocity (1 to 12)

var SmoothReleaseKey = new Array();

function HandleMIDI(event) {

if (event instanceof NoteOn) {
SmoothReleaseKey[event.pitch] = 0;
}

   // YAMAHA N1X 32 to 20 Poly Aftertouch for slow Damper release per Key
  if (event instanceof PolyPressure) {
     if ( event.value > 19 && event.value < 33 ) {
     var Newoff = new NoteOff(event);
     Newoff.pitch = event.pitch;
     Newoff.velocity = (64-event.value*2);
    
     Newoff.send();
     
     SmoothReleaseKey[event.pitch] = 1; // option send only one smooth release note off value
     }

  }else{

     SmoothReleaseKey[event.pitch] = 0;

  event.send();

  }
  }

and the note off PTQ curve to use with this Script  :

Note-Off Velocity = [0, 32, 63, 64; 0, 9, 43, 127]

Hi,

Can you add in Pianoteq a polyphonic aftertouch option that can control NOTE OFF Velocity ?

I also have a Yamaha system which sends polyphonic aftertouch while releasing the key.
Instead of converting polyphonic aftertouch into note-off velocity, it would be more accurate if Modartt  muted the sound accordingly to the PA value.

What is nice with how Yamaha implements this is that it sends note-off anyway with constant velocity = 64.
Poly-aftertouch is only emitted when releasing the key slowly.
So adding a feature to mute the string according to PA would not interfere with how PianoTeq currently manages sound damping.

In real life : i prefer Steinway Bell sound.

But since this new 280VC incredible Bosendorfer :

In pianoteq 8, i prefer the Bosendorfer....

This Bosendorfer have the Steinway Bell sound in Pianoteq 8, that the Pianoteq 8 Steinway(s) don't have :

When i play this Nocturne :
https://forum.modartt.com/download.php?id=5858

Sound like Moravec Recording....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHXxWfSAxik

i try do reach this Bosendorfer Moravec sound.

Modartt please upgrade/update  all of your Steinways.

The Bosendorfer is near perfection but too perfect, i've changed some unissons and others... :

my fxp :

https://forum.modartt.com/file/798kzoqv

But my Yamaha N1X doesn't have note off velocity, but polyphonic aftertouch for the release...
i use i midi script in Logic to modify polyphonic aftertouch -> to Note off velocity (Work only in LOgic but not standalone)

Can you add in Pianoteq a polyphonic aftertouch option that can control NOTE OFF Velocity ? of a midi script feature in Pianoteq ?

Bravo for your Bosendorfer.....

but you can now do Steinways much better !!!! ( i want The VSL D-274 sound)

or a Shigeru Kawai....

Regards,

Olivier Wladimir Frappier

The whole song plays out for me??? Maxine is 3:50 long (same as the album) and then it starts into The New Frontier for about 20 seconds or so

GrantOsborne wrote:

Thanks!  I wish the whole song would play.  The file seems to be the correct size, but it cuts off about half way through for some reason.

Great glad to hear…thanks for letting me know!

dickiefunk wrote:

This is my favourite piano Modartt has released so far. I have been trying the demo out and posted a few blind listening tests against pianos such as Ivory 3, Garritan CFX, NI Noire etc and was surprised at how many found Pianoteq to be their favourite.

Indeed. It’s an absolute marvel.

https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...Dreamy.mp3

Here is my recording of Donald Fagen’s Maxine using the Bosendorfer VC Dreamy setting. 

This piano has a great bite and is the kind of sound I use live.  Looking forward to seeing if it will be my new go to piano.  I still favor the keyscape Yamaha C7 along with Pianoteq but this sound has a lot of potential…this is the most excited I’ve been for a piano sound in a long time!

This is my favourite piano Modartt has released so far. I have been trying the demo out and posted a few blind listening tests against pianos such as Ivory 3, Garritan CFX, NI Noire etc and was surprised at how many found Pianoteq to be their favourite.

Indeed. It’s an absolute marvel.