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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: VPC1 Consensus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m playing a VPC1 since 3 years. It&#039;s still the best solution for me to play silently and with pianos triggered on my macbook.<br />I also wanted a digi piano that comes close to a real keyboard. And for me the VPC1 is still king in this regard, if you can live with only a controller with no built in sounds.</p><p>It&#039;s not perfect but IMO there&#039;s no better solution at this moment in the price range of the VPC1. The next best solution would be a Kawai or Yamaha digi piano with a real hammer action (e.g. Kawai NV10S).</p><p>The one thing that is really crap about the VPC1 is the pedal. Expect to have to replace it after a certain amount of use.<br />When mine broke I first fixed the internal mechanics, but it&#039;s all plastic and will fail eventually.<br />I then replaced mine with a Roland pedal connected to a USB conversion box.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael10]]></name>
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			<updated>2024-06-08T17:27:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: VPC1 Consensus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Adam FIlter wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The main thing that is holding me back is potential technical problems and having to send it back for servicing.</p></blockquote></div><p> There is no technical problems on the VPC1, except the lack of accuracy of midi output at low velocities , and limitation ~ 110 in max note-on velocity&nbsp; with standard velocity curve. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Adam FIlter wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Could any one tell me where the paint peels off exactly? I wonder how easy is to fix it at home should the need arise.</p></blockquote></div><p>Here is a snapshot on the VPC1 taken before I sold it <br /><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mLBCSEu-5VgUYgMzBsBf2FZ_ld4e0Nc2/view?usp=share_link">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mLBCSE...share_link</a></p><p>Same paint issue on my current MP11 <br /><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nb_G5n1DuTsBGkzNtUZnJchEhUCOExet/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nb_G5n...sp=sharing</a></p><p>So it seems to be a quality issue with the paint&nbsp; of these keyboards. A friend of mine who also has a VPC1 has confirmed he has noticed the same issue with his board ad it has also be reported in other forums. </p><p>It is just a cosmetic issue. The front part of the case affected and it can be removed after opening the keyboard and can be re-painted providing you manage to get same glossy black.&nbsp; &nbsp;If you play only one hour per day as you mention, you may not experience the issue.&nbsp; In my personal case , I play about 5-6 hours day on the keyboard , that may be why I had the issue on both boards.</p></blockquote></div><p>Quality control issues all round with the Kawai VPC 1</p><p>Even the keys are laminated rather than solid wood, and badly machined.</p><p>I won&#039;t touch Kawai digital. They need to improve the QC of their digital range.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-06-08T12:31:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: VPC1 Consensus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Adam FIlter wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The main thing that is holding me back is potential technical problems and having to send it back for servicing.</p></blockquote></div><p> There is no technical problems on the VPC1, except the lack of accuracy of midi output at low velocities , and limitation ~ 110 in max note-on velocity&nbsp; with standard velocity curve. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Adam FIlter wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Could any one tell me where the paint peels off exactly? I wonder how easy is to fix it at home should the need arise.</p></blockquote></div><p>Here is a snapshot on the VPC1 taken before I sold it <br /><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mLBCSEu-5VgUYgMzBsBf2FZ_ld4e0Nc2/view?usp=share_link">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mLBCSE...share_link</a></p><p>Same paint issue on my current MP11 <br /><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nb_G5n1DuTsBGkzNtUZnJchEhUCOExet/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nb_G5n...sp=sharing</a></p><p>So it seems to be a quality issue with the paint&nbsp; of these keyboards. A friend of mine who also has a VPC1 has confirmed he has noticed the same issue with his board ad it has also be reported in other forums. </p><p>It is just a cosmetic issue. The front part of the case affected and it can be removed after opening the keyboard and can be re-painted providing you manage to get same glossy black.&nbsp; &nbsp;If you play only one hour per day as you mention, you may not experience the issue.&nbsp; In my personal case , I play about 5-6 hours day on the keyboard , that may be why I had the issue on both boards.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pianistically]]></name>
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			<updated>2024-06-05T08:13:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: VPC1 Consensus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I usually don&#039;t practice more than an hour at a time. This is a hobby for me and I&#039;m heavy handed, so a harder action might not be a problem and I don&#039;t play classical at all, so maybe I can live with that. I have to take an iPad to a store where they have a VPC1 and test. Quiet action is one of the things I&#039;m looking for as loud action of SL88 Studio is getting on my nerves.</p><p>The other alternatives I have narrowed this down to are FP-90X and P-525, but they are more expensive and as I said, I won&#039;t be using the onboard sounds.<br />I can see myself pulling the trigger on VPC1 as it&#039;s probably not that hard to re-sell.</p><p>The main thing that is holding me back is potential technical problems and having to send it back for servicing.</p><p>Could any one tell me where the paint peels off exactly? I wonder how easy is to fix it at home should the need arise.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Adam FIlter]]></name>
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			<updated>2024-06-05T07:44:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: VPC1 Consensus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Adam FIlter wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>When I read VPC1 posts it&#039;s like I&#039;m reading about 2 different products.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have owned one for 7 years and indeed I can understand why the opinions differ when it comes to be the VPC1 :&nbsp; </p><p>IMHO,&nbsp; here are my personal plus and cons based on my experience with with controller.</p><p>The plus : <br />(1) Excellent feeling/control in the mid velocity range with default curve . (50-80 region) <br />(2) Possibility of creating any velocity curve with the VPC1 editor <br />(3) 5 pin Midi in.out allows control of other instruments <br />(4) I actually find this action on the quiet side. The wood material is better than plastic for shock absorption. <br />(5) Action is really robust. After 7 years of use if was like new. Less issues related to infamous&#039; slip tape&#039; issue than with GF1, GF2 Kawai wooden key actions. </p><p>The cons: <br />(1) Very hard to produce consistent low velocities. Every user who has measured the down weight with gram weights and programs like velocitester realises there are important differences between&nbsp; &nbsp;adjacent keys. The root cause seems to be inconsistent friction with the let -off simulation plastic notch. It doesn&#039;t really affect velocities above the 50 mark.&nbsp; &nbsp; This was the main season why I sold my VPC1. <br />(2) Impossible to reach velocity 127 with linear curve.<br />(3)&nbsp; Heavy feeling which can cause fatigue if you play long hours <br />(4)&nbsp; Indeed I had the problem with peeling paint affecting the thin metal part near the front of the white keys. ( also affects my MP11) </p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Adam FIlter wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is there any controller keyboard with a decent piano action (preferably graded) out there today not ridden with faults?</p></blockquote></div><p>&nbsp; <br />Unfortunately there are not many midi controllers geared toward piano players in the market today. So I think it is worth considering the portable DP ranges as well as it will give you much more options.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pianistically]]></name>
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			<updated>2024-06-04T23:48:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[VPC1 Consensus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I know this has bean probably beaten to death, I&#039;ve read multiple threads&nbsp; on this and other forums.</p><p>There seems to be a lot of people that are very happy with their VPC1 and there&#039;s a second group that had bad experiences for various technical reasons. Some people state velocity inconsistency, noisy keybed and.even peeling paint.</p><p>When I read VPC1 posts it&#039;s like I&#039;m reading about 2 different products.</p><p>I&#039;m looking to upgrade from TP/100 in Studiologic SL88 Studio, since I&#039;ve finally started practicing jazz piano a year ago, it&#039;s going pretty nicely and I&#039;m highly motivated to improve my playing. A lot of people recommend getting a digital piano and using it as a controller, but I&#039;m not keen to go that route really. I keep coming back to VPC1, as the Studiologic SL88 Grand is said to be noisy and a lot of people say to stay away from Fatar in general, if you want higher end action.</p><p>Is there any controller keyboard with a decent piano action (preferably graded) out there today not ridden with faults?</p><p>I&#039;d appreciate any insights.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Adam FIlter]]></name>
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			<updated>2024-06-04T20:56:51Z</updated>
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