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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is there a Remedy for Loudness Differences]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pboy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> wish there was a way to kind of &quot;normalize&quot; the output volume of this demos&nbsp; ...</p></blockquote></div><p>Not 100% like a normalize button, but you can increase and decrease the &quot;fxgain&quot; in PT Effects window until the graphical output max loudness (PT main screen) for whatever midi demo you are playing is at the top of the yellow (or to taste). </p><p>Its confusing because the original request here sounds like an issue with velocity output from your keyboard or the velocity curve in PT, which you basically just confirmed. There is a calibration tool you can use for PT. However, velocity can&#039;t be normalized per say because its MIDI, which is back end data that triggers sound generation, not the sound generation (or the sound itself). Good luck!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bani223]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is there a Remedy for Loudness Differences]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your feedback guys.</p><p>I found a (partial) solution ...</p><p>It has nothing to do with the Behringer UCA222, which is perfectly fine for my setup.</p><p>The key was brundledfly&#039;s hint to &quot;velocity differences&quot;.</p><p>While i had set my Velocity Curve in Pteq, i didn&#039;t pay much attention to some other parameters of my HP605 until now. </p><p>I &quot;discovered&quot; that adjusting the &quot;Input Vol&quot; parameter helped adjusting the output vol from my notebook to match the &quot;loudness&quot; of the inbuild piano sounds.</p><p>Secondly - and more crucial - was adjusting the HP605&#039;s &quot;Key Touch&quot; parameter, which i had set and forgot shortly after i had received the piano. By lowering this value, i was able to get the same &quot;loudness&quot; from my own playing, than the Pteq demos.</p><p>While i&#039;m quite happy with this solution, it is imho only a partial one.</p><p>Because the loudness of PTeq&#039;s internal Preset Midi demos still differs greatly between some Instruments / Presets.</p><p>Thus i&#039;d wish there was a way to kind of &quot;normalize&quot; the output volume of this demos in PTeq.<br />Perhaps there is?</p><p>As always, thank you in advance for your valued thoughts and suggestions ...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-05-03T07:45:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The Behringer output IS weak, I just gave mine to a friend. Useless.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2024-04-20T18:16:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is there a Remedy for Loudness Differences]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not sure about the loudness difference between demos and your own playing but would expect that&#039;s mostly due to velocity differences. As for the difference between Pianoteq and the HP605&#039;s internal sounds, I would guess that&#039;s mostly due to the limitations of this spec from Roland:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Input jacks: Stereo miniature phone type</p><p>And this spec for the Behringer:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Line Out Connectors: RCA, Unbalanced</p><p>Presumably you&#039;re either using&nbsp; a Y-plug to get the two mono outputs from the Behringer into the stereo mini jack or you&#039;re using an 1/8&quot; phone cable from the Behinger&#039;s headphone out. Either way, my guess is the Behringer&#039;s output level is weak and/or impedance mismatching between the unbalanced ouputs and inputs is probably contributing to a less-than-ideal input signal level.</p><p>There isn&#039;t a lot you can do about that other than making sure Pianoteq&#039;s level control is maxed without clipping the Behringer&#039;s DAC. And if you&#039;re using the headphone out, try getting a Y connector/cables to use the RCA ouputs which may work better.</p><p>Going forward, you might want to consider setting up a conventional stereo monitoring system - possibly with a small mixer to handle signals from the Behringer, the Roland, and your notebook&#039;s onboard sound - rather than using the Roland&#039;s speakers. And next time, look for gear that has +10dBu balanced I/O.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[brundlefly]]></name>
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			<updated>2024-04-20T17:38:21Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys and dolls,</p><p>i run PTeq on a notebook, which is connected via a Behringer UCA222 to my Roland HP605.</p><p>I find it higly annoying that there is a big difference in loudness between PTeq&#039;s internal Preset Midi demos itself when played over the speakers my HP605, but also between a PTeq Preset Midi demo and playing the Preset on the piano. </p><p>Mostly the demo is way louder than the Preset sound of notes payed on the piano.<br />(Pteq Preset Sounds played on the piano are also way quieter than the HP605 inbuild pianos)</p><p>Therefore i almost always need to tweak volume / settings when switching presets.</p><p>And when i want to hear the preset playing live on the same level than the HP605 inbuild pianos, i need to raise the Piano&#039;s speaker volume very high, which produces a buzzing sound (imho caused by the connected notebook)</p><p>1. Am i the only one experiencing such issues?</p><p>2. Is this perhaps a Roland specific problem?</p><p>3. Is there perhaps a way to fix the loudness on an acceptable level (without buzzing)?</p><p>As always, thank you in advance for your valued thoughts and suggestions ...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2024-04-20T13:24:07Z</updated>
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