actually this topic can be closed as i'm taking away the file. It's going to be released on itunes the coming week... so . Thanks for all the comments too.

She doesn't have much time. This recording session was planned 5 months ahead. She does alot of classical stuff, school, etc... We will make other songs in the future but it will always be on a tight schedule so I better be a bit more prepared next time.

These songs are to showcase her voice a bit but we are making up plans for an Eimar Quinn like song and another popsong of my writing but I'll have to be ready with the songs so she can come and sing and leave like last time.

It's no big deal really to take the piano reverb settings over for the vocals, it's the same plugin anyway. It would sure be a bit more "realistic". )

No, no, no. I meant almost the opposite--reduce the reverb on the piano. You might give her a little reverb, but very little, and only if the piano reverb is reduced.

To me, and this gets subjective fast, she seemed to be singing in a booth, and not projecting much as a result. Get her out of the booth, if so, when you record again. Not all singers do well in a booth. Let the woman sing.

Please don't take this the wrong way--a piano and singer arrangement seems simple, but it's one of the most difficult recordings to make, since both instruments are so exposed. The ice-skating situation: it looks lovely partly because it seems so simple, but in reality, it's very hard. There are very, very few good recordings of Holiday or Armstrong or Sinatra or Fitzgerald or Julie London (had to get her in) with a solo piano backing, and with reason. (And lots of serious, more raw singers avoided the arrangement--Janis or Grace Slick singing solo with piano? Beth Gibbons?) There's Joni Mitchell, yes. There aren't many more with recent singers using recently developed equipment--Krall or for that matter McLachlan and Norah Jones, all of whom I often love, and they are playing the piano, and the vocal mics pick up some sound from the piano, so the situation differs--they can control the overall sound as they create it. And they've probably tried out every mic and micing setup possible using the best recording equipment that Sony et al can find...

(No, I don't know what "realistic" is. I love a good singer over almost anything. I really love Beth Gibbons mixed in with just about anything. But there's something about the exposed beauty of a voice and piano or any acoustic instrument together. Joni Mitchell on a good night with a good piano doing "River"? Nellie Mckay singing "If I Had You," backing herself with her ukelele? I don't know. Maybe not "realistic." Maybe just a convention, but I love it.)

Let us hear more, please. You're doing something very valuable but difficult. Constructive, I'm trying to be. To me, this is a peak to be achieved--piano and vocal using PianoTeq, and you've stepped forward with a good recording.

I had already found your 'standard' webadress but ehmm there was not much info there...

and yes i have to change this lol, it has been a long time since I've been here and now there's facebook and twitter and stuff I don't have this blog on my site anymore and I'm no longer interested in mysapce.

btw all your links don't seem to work or outdated???

But I feel the sound to her voice needs jus more dynamic adjust.

I don't think I panned anything, the patch was just modified slightly in the spectrum ranges to avoid it sounding too flat (and further with a waves V-EQ. that slightly boosted around the 200 hz area, to provide a bit of bass.

I don't know if I'm going to make this type of song again with this singer, we might have other projects (more pop music) for the future. But there's another song that slightly uses pianoteq with a male singer.

I just liked to do this with pianoteq to promote the notion that one can make a piano/voice balad with a virtual piano these days without it sounding "cheap"

Is there some slight panning too? The piano sounds like it's a little more to the right, but that may be because the bass is "centered," coming from the entire sound board, in the C3. I might actually try panning the piano to the left just a little.

But these are just suggestions and notions. I do hope you'll post more, and that we hear more vocals with PianoTeq. Looking forward to hearing what you do.

I first recorded the piano part long befor the vocal track was recorded. Both tracks use the same plugin but different settings yes. For the piano I  wanted this long almost ambient like reverb, but I didn't want to satturated the voice too much with verb because that would be just overkill in my opinion.

It's just easy to play with the velocity of the keys a bit and I know somewhere I wanted it to be silent. I'm ofcourse refining this further before i'm gonna release this on an E.P.

I didn't nececerily wanted to create the illusion that the piano was in the same room than the vocalist, but maybe for a balad like this it's somehow requiered. I must think of this.

I do have a few qualms:

There seemed to be more reverb on the piano than the vocal, as though the piano was sitting in a different, bigger room, further away from us. I'm not sure I wanted more reverb on her, though. Maybe just a touch, with less room in the piano sound.

I agree that the piano is a little loud in the mix. Partly because it tends to reach climaxes at the same time as the vocal.

By the way--did you record both tracks at the same time, or did you do the piano first?

But it's great to hear what you're doing. Please do post more similar recordings.