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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Kawai MP11 vs. Roland RD-2000: best MIDI controller for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>devhdb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Alternatively, which MIDI controller would you recommend me with great action and pitch/mod wheel?</p></blockquote></div><p>Both of those were on my shortlist a couple of years back when I was shopping. Both felt like premium stage pianos with great action. Kawai was a bit more realistic feeling, though I was deterred by supposed quality control issues in recent years with Kawai&#039;s actions. Not sure if that&#039;s still an issue. Yamaha and Roland are both known for making actions that can take a beating. I believe Roland has a 10-year warranty on everything they sell. That said, action is such a subjective feature it&#039;s best to try for yourself if possible.</p><p>I ended up getting a 2nd-hand Yamaha CP88. I love it, but would have also been happy with the RD-2000 or MP11SE. The CP88 action is similar to the Yamaha P515 -- very heavy, but lots of control and satisfyingly snappy, whereas the RD-2000 felt *slightly* spongier. It took a couple of months of getting used to (my previous DP was the Roland RD-30, much lighter) but I have great control with the CP88 and can hit the full 0-127 range with proper technique, though a slight curve helps for hitting the extremes with sloppier technique. That might not have been an issue with the RD2000.</p><p>I also have heard good things about the StudioLogic Numa X GT, the new Yamaha P525 (apparently it&#039;s lighter than the P515/CP88), and somewhat surprisingly the new Casio DPs. Not sure how Casio could cram a premium action into something that small, but people seem to like it. I haven&#039;t been able to play those for myself.</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Kawai MP11 vs. Roland RD-2000: best MIDI controller for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>devhdb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi,</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.kawai.co.uk/images/products/mp11se_1_451.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span></p><p><a href="https://www.kawai.co.uk/products/digitalpianos/mpseries/mp11se/">https://www.kawai.co.uk/products/digita...es/mp11se/</a></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://static.roland.com/products/rd-2000/features/images/professional_performers_hero.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span></p><p>Finally I have narrowed it down to these two pianos. I will wait for NAMM at the end of the month though, just in case Kawai announces the MP12.</p><p>MIDI performance is my main concern.</p><br /><p>There&#039;s a nice side by side review of both here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDUmIwYloiI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDUmIwYloiI</a><br />And another one here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu9tAHOXnWM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu9tAHOXnWM</a></p><br /><br /><p>I&#039;m looking mostly for great action and pitch/mod wheel, for I will be using it only as a MIDI controller. I don&#039;t mind its weight or the number/quality of onboard sounds.</p><p>I&#039;ve heard that Kawai MP11 might have some issues used as a MIDI controller. Is that true? How about the Roland? <br />Alternatively, which MIDI controller would you recommend me with great action and pitch/mod wheel?</p></blockquote></div><p> they are both very good keyboards . As a pure midi controller I find the PHA50 better than the GF action as it is easier to cover the whole 1-127 midi range and it is very easy to play pianissimo on this action . The MP11 has the edge when you use internal piano sounds as the velocity mapping&nbsp; between the internal Kawai grand piano and the action is excellent , but given your are more interested in the midi controller function, I think the Roland is a better match .</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pianistically]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Kawai MP11 vs. Roland RD-2000: best MIDI controller for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.kawai.co.uk/images/products/mp11se_1_451.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span></p><p><a href="https://www.kawai.co.uk/products/digitalpianos/mpseries/mp11se/">https://www.kawai.co.uk/products/digita...es/mp11se/</a></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://static.roland.com/products/rd-2000/features/images/professional_performers_hero.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span></p><p>Finally I have narrowed it down to these two pianos. I will wait for NAMM at the end of the month though, just in case Kawai announces the MP12.</p><p>MIDI performance is my main concern.</p><br /><p>There&#039;s a nice side by side review of both here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDUmIwYloiI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDUmIwYloiI</a><br />And another one here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu9tAHOXnWM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu9tAHOXnWM</a></p><br /><br /><p>I&#039;m looking mostly for great action and pitch/mod wheel, for I will be using it only as a MIDI controller. I don&#039;t mind its weight or the number/quality of onboard sounds.</p><p>I&#039;ve heard that Kawai MP11 might have some issues used as a MIDI controller. Is that true? How about the Roland? <br />Alternatively, which MIDI controller would you recommend me with great action and pitch/mod wheel?</p>]]></content>
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