I should be very happy with a B3 model, preferably in Pianoteq (or perhaps Organteq)! Saves me a separate app on my laptop or a phsysical module! What are your thoughts about this Modartt?
Absolutely. Would love it.
]]>Those are just a few that are modeled. There are also sample/modeling hybrids like Acoustic Samples B5.
GSi Instruments VB3 II have actually been acquired as the "engine" for the hardware Crumar Mojo organ. They sound about as convincing as could be for VSTs. There is very little to be gained here by Modartt trying to break into this already crowded market for a limited user base.
I should be very happy with a B3 model, preferably in Pianoteq (or perhaps Organteq)! Saves me a separate app on my laptop or a phsysical module! What are your thoughts about this Modartt?
I would really like Modartt to develop a tone wheel organ. Physical modeling is my favorite synthesis option.
For example, I use and recommend the SetBfree software. It runs on Linux and is very good!
]]>I should be very happy with a B3 model, preferably in Pianoteq (or perhaps Organteq)! Saves me a separate app on my laptop or a phsysical module! What are your thoughts about this Modartt?
Modartt, are you considering making a physical model of a Hammond B3?
Jeez ... I hope not. Then the next thing would be ... "what about a software Leslie?" (which could not happen and probably never will)
Kudos anyway, Lanny
]]>Pro is $10 for rotary speed control, and mic position for example.
--- Stephen
]]>anyway, IK´s B3-X is at the moment on sale for $39.99, which makes it cheaper than a pianoteq add-on. still over 400 Mb footprint though.
also, tomorrow Cherry Audio will be releasing (I think) their upgrade to GG Audio´s Blue 3 organ and Leslie emulation (I believe it's physically modelled too, but haven't tried it yet). Might be worth a look.
didn't post link as I´m not sure links to other companies commercial sites are allowed here.
best,
Miguel.
I should be very happy with a B3 model, preferably in Pianoteq (or perhaps Organteq)! Saves me a separate app on my laptop or a phsysical module! What are your thoughts about this Modartt?
+1 totally agree
]]>I'm not against the idea of a Modartt B3 either - but personally I'd much rather see them do something more obscure, like a harmonium.
Maybe as a nice addition to Pianoteq rather than it's own engine.
]]>EvilDragon wrote:We already have great modelled Hammonds available. Modartt doesn't need to waste time on this.
I just use VB3-II, it is awesome. Noting else is needed.
The fact that you use and like VB3-II has nothing to do with what others want. If Modartt followed similar suggestions from people when they started (there were many, many who said "Garritan CFX is great, Pianoteq version 1 sucks, Modartt should quit" -- and some still do!) we would not have the great product we have.
One easy to see thing that the Modartt engine does that VB3-II lacks is Linux support. Of course is minor in the great scheme of things, and there are more important ones, but I do hope that Modartt will embark in such a journey!
Garritan CFX is just regular old sampling. In contrast there are several physically modeled hammonds out there.
Assuming Modartt do not have infinite programmers to fulfill this task this would take away from other development.
Sure it would be nice to see their take on it though but it's arguably yet another duplication where Pianoteq certainly was not, and the Organteq church organ market wasn't exactly saturated.
For all I know behind the scenes their algorithms could be powering some other product doing this already.
I'm not against the idea but will it be significantly better than the one Evil Dragon mentioned, or the UAD or IK or Arturia modelled versions?
]]>We already have great modelled Hammonds available. Modartt doesn't need to waste time on this.
I just use VB3-II, it is awesome. Noting else is needed.
The fact that you use and like VB3-II has nothing to do with what others want. If Modartt followed similar suggestions from people when they started (there were many, many who said "Garritan CFX is great, Pianoteq version 1 sucks, Modartt should quit" -- and some still do!) we would not have the great product we have.
One easy to see thing that the Modartt engine does that VB3-II lacks is Linux support. Of course is minor in the great scheme of things, and there are more important ones, but I do hope that Modartt will embark in such a journey!
]]>I just use VB3-II, it is awesome. Noting else is needed.
]]>Hi I am not from Modartt but I can say the B3 organ is an analog electronic instruments that radically differs from the non-electronic instruments they are modeling. For example, the routing path for generating notes on a B3 is nothing like a piano or a pipe organ making the PianoTeq & OrganTeq engines inapropriate for this purpose. IMHO I don't see why they would offer such an intrument especially knowing that a very accurate emulator plugin exist: VB3 II
I am not from Modartt either, and I completely disagree.
First, it doesn't matter that another company already has a similar product, otherwise they would not be modeling pianos either, since there were many other companies doing pianos when they started. The question is more about them being able to do it "better" in either sound quality, or technical requirements on the hardware (e.g. less disk space for the samples) or software (e.g. Linux version), or perhaps even price, etc.
Of course what it *does* matter is if Modartt think they can do such "better".
Most importantly, from the technical point of view, if you read the various science papers, Ph.D. thesis and the likes, you'd see that there is no inherent limit on the modeling being limited to the electronic vs acoustic: pianoteq is just a very sophisticated synth that can indeed realistically synthesize the sound of the piano. The sound of the B3 organ is much simpler and hence within scope of what should be possible to do.
In fact starting with the existing electric pianos, increasing the attack envelope, zeroing the hammer noise, maximizing the impedance and reducing the spectrum profile of the higher harmonics, one quickly gets a decent sound of a electronic organ. I think that spending more time with the various other settings in both the design and voicing sections, one can get something really good. What you cannot do by yourself is giving the "infinite sustain" of the organ, obviously, because the impedence value in the user interface is limited in range. But as Modartt said in various occasions, they have internally access to larger ranges and more parameters that they use to model different instruments and I have no doubts that they could model a good (if not excellent) B3 organ with limited efforts, perhaps even less efforts than they spent for each of the branded pianos.
I am also sure that at the $50 regular ($35 discounted as it is now) it would be an instrument which would sell well on its own and would probably increase sales of Pianoteq itself too, with the Stage version (with the B3 and another instrument) for example being competitive with the VB3-II and having a much more competitive pricing update policy!
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