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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Replacement speakers for Yamaha HS7]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>My bad, it was the Adam A8Hs I was considering, but ended up with a pair of Neumann KH 310a monitors for just a few hundred more than the Adams. Not being able to hear either first hand, I was a little leary of a the ribbon tweater and thought the Neumanns would be more &#039;old school musical&#039;. Just hooked them up. I spent a long time adjusting the settings in the back but got a sound I really liked for the against-the-wall location. They are not limited to nearfield listening, which I was concerned about, and they fill my livingroom but also great at the piano (with volume turned down a bit via Cantabile settings). I&#039;ve been removing all the equalizer plugins, putting hammer hardness and velocity curve back to normal after all the adjustments I made trying to &#039;fix&#039; the HS7s. Beautiful speakers. Happy.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2023 23:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Replacement speakers for Yamaha HS7]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>skipgilles wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have rather extensively tried a number of different monitors. I had a rather dynamic recording of pianoteq playing through many cheaper and more expensive monitors and been listening literally for hours. <br />My favorite among the more affordable monitors was by far the Adam HS8, for being very clean, and flat, no &quot;wobbly basses&quot; as many other cheaper small monitors have. Also, the trebles didn&#039;t get annoying as others do after long exposure. Only when I tried the *much* more expensive Neumann KH monitors, I noticed that there was still something to wish for. Had I not heard the Neumans, had I certainly bought the Adams and been happy with them. (where I did hear superiority in the Neumans is the middle. Very powerful and &quot;diverse&quot;. On all other boxes including the Adams, the middle has a kind of same mess, no matter which chord you play you play. This makes your ears a bit tired after long exposure. The &quot;messy middle palette&quot; on the Neumans is much less messy and sounds different on each different chord.</p></blockquote></div><p>Adam HS8...?! Or Yamaha HS8, or Adam..?? Please clarify, there is no Adam HS8 model. Thanks!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2023 14:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Replacement speakers for Yamaha HS7]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ha, wow, hope you enjoy them a much as I do! I think it&#039;s very unlikely you get disappointed.</p><p>One more note on why I like them so much and what about the &quot;messy middles&quot;. Maybe it helps when I describe my literal experience: I had listened to this pianoteq recording on a number of &quot;normally priced&quot; monitors, including the Adams (and also these white-conus yamaha&#039;s and two other brands I can&#039;t remember) for about one hour and a half. I was very sure I liked the Adams better than the others, since they were the only ones without a frequency that started hurting my ears after long exposure and a good realistic bass portion.</p><p>I was more or less decided when my friend who worked at the shop brought me these Neumans &quot;for fun&quot;. After 5 minutes of listening I was not impressed and judged them as almost indistinguishable from the Adams. They only sounded a bit more powerful, as if there was more headroom (which is actually the case). </p><p>Only after like 15 minutes, the difference started to grow on me: the extreme clarity in the middles. Every chord, and even each repetition of the same chord (thanks to pianoteq being so great) sounding subtly different.</p><p>So that&#039;s how I decided to spend much more than I planned on monitors. As said, I would likely have been happy with the Adams too. What I am sure about is that I am very happy now!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2023 13:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Replacement speakers for Yamaha HS7]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>skipgilles wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have rather extensively tried a number of different monitors. I had a rather dynamic recording of pianoteq playing through many cheaper and more expensive monitors and been listening literally for hours. <br />My favorite among the more affordable monitors was by far the Adam HS8, for being very clean, and flat, no &quot;wobbly basses&quot; as many other cheaper small monitors have. Also, the trebles didn&#039;t get annoying as others do after long exposure. Only when I tried the *much* more expensive Neumann KH monitors, I noticed that there was still something to wish for. Had I not heard the Neumans, had I certainly bought the Adams and been happy with them. (where I did hear superiority in the Neumans is the middle. Very powerful and &quot;diverse&quot;. On all other boxes including the Adams, the middle has a kind of same mess, no matter which chord you play you play. This makes your ears a bit tired after long exposure. The &quot;messy middle palette&quot; on the Neumans is much less messy and sounds different on each different chord.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hope you’re right! I just scored a good deal on a lightly used pair of KH 310s.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jonfrommaine)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2023 12:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Replacement speakers for Yamaha HS7]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=993518#p993518</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>skipgilles wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have rather extensively tried a number of different monitors. I had a rather dynamic recording of pianoteq playing through many cheaper and more expensive monitors and been listening literally for hours. <br />My favorite among the more affordable monitors was by far the Adam HS8, for being very clean, and flat, no &quot;wobbly basses&quot; as many other cheaper small monitors have. Also, the trebles didn&#039;t get annoying as others do after long exposure. Only when I tried the *much* more expensive Neumann KH monitors, I noticed that there was still something to wish for. Had I not heard the Neumans, had I certainly bought the Adams and been happy with them. (where I did hear superiority in the Neumans is the middle. Very powerful and &quot;diverse&quot;. On all other boxes including the Adams, the middle has a kind of same mess, no matter which chord you play you play. This makes your ears a bit tired after long exposure. The &quot;messy middle palette&quot; on the Neumans is much less messy and sounds different on each different chord.</p></blockquote></div><p>Considered the Neumann KH 310D, but at $1K more per speaker than the A8H, I really can&#039;t justify the cost. Not great to hear &#039;the middle is a mess&#039; on the A8H, as that&#039;s really the range I&#039;m looking to improve. Did you play with the equalization/voicings on the A8H? Also curious what the nearfield (4&#039;) and mid-field (10&#039;) sound was like on the A8H. Again, the Neumann&#039;s look nice, but the A8H (3K/pair) is the absolute max I&#039;m willing to spend on these. I know you didn&#039;t pick them but you&#039;re actually the first person on any piano forum who&#039;s actually heard them reproducing a piano.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2023 01:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Replacement speakers for Yamaha HS7]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>skipgilles wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have rather extensively tried a number of different monitors. I had a rather dynamic recording of pianoteq playing through many cheaper and more expensive monitors and been listening literally for hours. <br />My favorite among the more affordable monitors was by far the Adam HS8, for being very clean, and flat, no &quot;wobbly basses&quot; as many other cheaper small monitors have. Also, the trebles didn&#039;t get annoying as others do after long exposure. Only when I tried the *much* more expensive Neumann KH monitors, I noticed that there was still something to wish for. Had I not heard the Neumans, had I certainly bought the Adams and been happy with them. (where I did hear superiority in the Neumans is the middle. Very powerful and &quot;diverse&quot;. On all other boxes including the Adams, the middle has a kind of same mess, no matter which chord you play you play. This makes your ears a bit tired after long exposure. The &quot;messy middle palette&quot; on the Neumans is much less messy and sounds different on each different chord.</p></blockquote></div><p>And this just adds to what I&#039;ve written: front ports (like all Neumann models...) are really something important. I once resold monitors (Quad) which were of good quality but unusable just because of this.<br />Well, that said, the quality of the Neumann&#039;s low midrange is probably a cut above the rest as well... hence the price...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2023 18:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Replacement speakers for Yamaha HS7]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have rather extensively tried a number of different monitors. I had a rather dynamic recording of pianoteq playing through many cheaper and more expensive monitors and been listening literally for hours. <br />My favorite among the more affordable monitors was by far the Adam HS8, for being very clean, and flat, no &quot;wobbly basses&quot; as many other cheaper small monitors have. Also, the trebles didn&#039;t get annoying as others do after long exposure. Only when I tried the *much* more expensive Neumann KH monitors, I noticed that there was still something to wish for. Had I not heard the Neumans, had I certainly bought the Adams and been happy with them. (where I did hear superiority in the Neumans is the middle. Very powerful and &quot;diverse&quot;. On all other boxes including the Adams, the middle has a kind of same mess, no matter which chord you play you play. This makes your ears a bit tired after long exposure. The &quot;messy middle palette&quot; on the Neumans is much less messy and sounds different on each different chord.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2023 12:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Replacement speakers for Yamaha HS7]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>&quot;2. They&#039;re front ported (my monitors are against the wall and I can&#039;t change this&quot;.<br />Very, very important indeed...<br />I had to change my own setup just because of the same issue.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Luc Henrion)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2023 19:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Replacement speakers for Yamaha HS7]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m mixing the internal sound system on my Kawai NV10S with external Yamaha HS7s and a HS8s sub. I&#039;ve noticed that the notes in the first two octaves over middle C are very pronounced, overly percussive and unmusical through the HS7s (not so through the NV10s speakers, but the overall sound is boxy, hence my use of the external monitors). I&#039;ve tried tweaking settings (velocity curve, hammer hardness, resonance) on Pianoteq and the other VSTs I use, but can&#039;t seem to get a sound I like (as compared to headphones and even what I get through smaller Presonus monitors + internal sound on my Yamaha P515). I&#039;ve also tried using dynamic EQ plugins to cut down the range of notes, but I&#039;m still unhappy with the result. I also have the tweeter cutoff switch on the HS7s set at -2db though I&#039;m thinking that the problem frequencies are actually rendered by the upper range of the woofer. I have the volume and cutoff on the HS8s sub both set fairly low. It&#039;s really just to provide some extra low end (especially for Organtec).</p><p>Bases on some reports I&#039;ve read about midrange problems with the HS7, I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that it may be time to consider trying another set of monitors and I&#039;ve narrowed it down to the Adam A8H or the Genelec 8050B. I&#039;m leaning towards the Adams because </p><p>1. They&#039;re 3 way, with a dedicated mid-range speaker<br />2. They&#039;re front ported (my monitors are against the wall and I can&#039;t change this<br />3. I like the more conventional appearance<br />4. I&#039;d also like to use these speakers with my stereo to supplement my PSB tower speakers, which are on the other side of the room, and the A8H are billed as a &#039;near-field/mid-field&#039; monitor (not sure if this is marketing or they do actually have a wider dispersion)</p><p>A lot of people swear by the 8050B and they&#039;ve been around for a while, whereas the A8H is fairly new. I&#039;ve heard some complaints about the brightness of the ribbon tweeter and also about reliability in the Adams speaker line. My speakers are on stands behind my piano, about 3 feet from where I&#039;m sitting, and wondering if that&#039;s too close for these speakers.</p><p>Is anyone currently using the A8H with a digital piano and have comments? Also, can you comment on the &#039;room sound&#039; further away?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2023 17:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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