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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Connecting iPad with a digital piano with Bluetooth 4.1]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the answers!!!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Raül]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Connecting iPad with a digital piano with Bluetooth 4.1]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Flabis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The question is &quot;I would like to know if anyone has tried&quot;. I have tried on different new iPad, and iPad Pro, on different piano and with different apps. I always have a terrible lag.For me this is not playable. The flow is not regular.<br />I will check again and find why I can&#039;t reach 6 ms. Any idea? Thx for your comment.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have a Roland FP-10 and often use a Bluetooth midi connection to an iPad, iPhone, or to my Macbook Air.&nbsp; It&#039;s perfectly fine, just a hair more latency than with USB cable connection if you focus on it, but easy to forget about.&nbsp; </p><p>If you have terrible latency with Bluetooth midi connection from keyboard to iPad, then I would guess it&#039;s coming from somewhere other than the Bluetooth midi connection.&nbsp; What speakers are you listening to and how are they driven?&nbsp; Do you experience latency playing Pianoteq on the iPad if you&#039;re listening to the iPad speakers or to headphones plugged directly into the iPad?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[hesitz]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-09-19T22:35:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Connecting iPad with a digital piano with Bluetooth 4.1]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The question is &quot;I would like to know if anyone has tried&quot;. I have tried on different new iPad, and iPad Pro, on different piano and with different apps. I always have a terrible lag.For me this is not playable. The flow is not regular.<br />I will check again and find why I can&#039;t reach 6 ms. Any idea? Thx for your comment. </p><br /> <br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Paulo164 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Flabis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I often connect my iPad to my pianos or keyboards (Kawai, Yamaha and Roland) , as well in Bluetooth or midi.</p><p>Bluetooth is good to change the settings on my piano with Kawai or Yamaha apps. <br />But to play, the latency is way too long, really not playable. Only a midi cable works. </p><p>If you record a solo track in GarageBand for exemple and turn off your iPad sound, then you don&#039;t care about the latency, so Bluetooth is ok. <br />But to use with Pianoteq and hear what you play, with Bluetooth, you can have almost 1 second of latency and it&#039;s not regular, so sometime you don&#039;t hear anything during 3 sec and then the 10 notes you just played are all coming in the same time. </p><br /><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Raül wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hello,</p><p>I would like to know if anyone has tried MIDI over Bluetooth 4.1 with an iPad. I would be interested in having Pianoteq wirelessly with an iPad and a digital piano with piano touch. There are several digital pianos that have the Bluetooth 4 standard (Kawai ES-110, KDP-120, Roland FP-10, FP-30, Yamaha CLP-745, CLP-775, CLP-785, etc.). I like a lot of those models because they have a pretty good touch, but I would like to know if the bluetooth 4 standard they have would be enough before I opt for any of them. Has anyone tried this setup and got acceptable latency?</p><p>Thanks and regards,</p><p>Raül</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><p>He is talking about MIDI over bluetooth.<br />So we are dealing here with ~6 ms of latency, nowhere in the magnitude of 1 second.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Flabis]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-09-19T11:40:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Connecting iPad with a digital piano with Bluetooth 4.1]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Flabis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I often connect my iPad to my pianos or keyboards (Kawai, Yamaha and Roland) , as well in Bluetooth or midi.</p><p>Bluetooth is good to change the settings on my piano with Kawai or Yamaha apps. <br />But to play, the latency is way too long, really not playable. Only a midi cable works. </p><p>If you record a solo track in GarageBand for exemple and turn off your iPad sound, then you don&#039;t care about the latency, so Bluetooth is ok. <br />But to use with Pianoteq and hear what you play, with Bluetooth, you can have almost 1 second of latency and it&#039;s not regular, so sometime you don&#039;t hear anything during 3 sec and then the 10 notes you just played are all coming in the same time. </p><br /><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Raül wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hello,</p><p>I would like to know if anyone has tried MIDI over Bluetooth 4.1 with an iPad. I would be interested in having Pianoteq wirelessly with an iPad and a digital piano with piano touch. There are several digital pianos that have the Bluetooth 4 standard (Kawai ES-110, KDP-120, Roland FP-10, FP-30, Yamaha CLP-745, CLP-775, CLP-785, etc.). I like a lot of those models because they have a pretty good touch, but I would like to know if the bluetooth 4 standard they have would be enough before I opt for any of them. Has anyone tried this setup and got acceptable latency?</p><p>Thanks and regards,</p><p>Raül</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><p>He is talking about MIDI over bluetooth.<br />So we are dealing here with ~6 ms of latency, nowhere in the magnitude of 1 second.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-09-17T20:11:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Connecting iPad with a digital piano with Bluetooth 4.1]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I often connect my iPad to my pianos or keyboards (Kawai, Yamaha and Roland) , as well in Bluetooth or midi.</p><p>Bluetooth is good to change the settings on my piano with Kawai or Yamaha apps. <br />But to play, the latency is way too long, really not playable. Only a midi cable works. </p><p>If you record a solo track in GarageBand for exemple and turn off your iPad sound, then you don&#039;t care about the latency, so Bluetooth is ok. <br />But to use with Pianoteq and hear what you play, with Bluetooth, you can have almost 1 second of latency and it&#039;s not regular, so sometime you don&#039;t hear anything during 3 sec and then the 10 notes you just played are all coming in the same time. </p><br /><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Raül wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hello,</p><p>I would like to know if anyone has tried MIDI over Bluetooth 4.1 with an iPad. I would be interested in having Pianoteq wirelessly with an iPad and a digital piano with piano touch. There are several digital pianos that have the Bluetooth 4 standard (Kawai ES-110, KDP-120, Roland FP-10, FP-30, Yamaha CLP-745, CLP-775, CLP-785, etc.). I like a lot of those models because they have a pretty good touch, but I would like to know if the bluetooth 4 standard they have would be enough before I opt for any of them. Has anyone tried this setup and got acceptable latency?</p><p>Thanks and regards,</p><p>Raül</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-09-17T07:29:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Connecting iPad with a digital piano with Bluetooth 4.1]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p><p>I would like to know if anyone has tried MIDI over Bluetooth 4.1 with an iPad. I would be interested in having Pianoteq wirelessly with an iPad and a digital piano with piano touch. There are several digital pianos that have the Bluetooth 4 standard (Kawai ES-110, KDP-120, Roland FP-10, FP-30, Yamaha CLP-745, CLP-775, CLP-785, etc.). I like a lot of those models because they have a pretty good touch, but I would like to know if the bluetooth 4 standard they have would be enough before I opt for any of them. Has anyone tried this setup and got acceptable latency?</p><p>Thanks and regards,</p><p>Raül</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-09-08T18:48:32Z</updated>
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