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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is KIViR dead?]]></title>
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				<name><![CDATA[DEZ]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well... Money don&#039;t fall from sky like rain !</p><p>Each KiVIR modelled instrument take time and money to come up.</p><p>We had luck they created so many models for free. </p><p>Kremsseg 1 and Kremsegg 2 gave each 4 historic instruments for the price of one. <br />If they will bring more historic models, it will probably follow something like that.</p></blockquote></div><p>We don&#039;t know what commission incentives, Government grants or whatever were involved at the time either. </p><p>I am happy that they continue to support the existing KIVIR and created 3d visuals for those instruments too.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-08-03T17:30:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well... Money don&#039;t fall from sky like rain !</p><p>Each KiVIR modelled instrument take time and money to come up.</p><p>We had luck they created so many models for free. </p><p>Kremsseg 1 and Kremsegg 2 gave each 4 historic instruments for the price of one. <br />If they will bring more historic models, it will probably follow something like that.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have been playing these all week, they seem to have a singing quality that the more modern instruments lack. Hope the KIViR is given some more attention, thanks Xain, good post.</p><p>Nick</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Xain wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have been wondering this for a long time. <a href="http:///www.modartt.com/kivir">On the website</a> the KIViR project is presented as an ongoing project, aiming <br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>to build a considerable collection of digital copies (original or restored) of historical instruments from all parts of the world. The collection will not only serve as a maintainable testimony of the past, with playable devices in museums available to the public, but will also provide data sources for creating new virtual instruments.</p></blockquote></div><p>This was the essence of the scholarly and &quot;charitable&quot; side of Pianoteq, true to its academic origin - using Pianoteq&#039;s ever-improving technology to &quot;preserve&quot; historical instrument.</p><p>The release of the two Kremsegg and the Karsten collection, however, seemed to spell the end of it - which might make sense to the business operations, but it feels like a betrayal of the original KIViR project.</p><p>I really love the variety that KIViR has, and the KIViR&#039;s Érard is one of my go-to instruments on Pianoteq, together with the K2 and the New York Steinway. And I won&#039;t lie, I love knowing that I am playing Badura-Skoda&#039;s own Walter pianoforte.</p><p>That is why I wanted to ask all of you what you think of KIViR, if you think is still supported / maintained / you are aware of improvement of any KIViR instrument in recent PTQ updates, or if the project is still alive at all and we can expect new KIViR releases.</p></blockquote></div><p>most sadly, it does indeed seem to have been abandoned... :&#039;(<br /><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=986315#p986315">https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php...15#p986315</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[francine]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-03T11:51:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Is KIViR dead?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have been wondering this for a long time. <a href="http:///www.modartt.com/kivir">On the website</a> the KIViR project is presented as an ongoing project, aiming <br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>to build a considerable collection of digital copies (original or restored) of historical instruments from all parts of the world. The collection will not only serve as a maintainable testimony of the past, with playable devices in museums available to the public, but will also provide data sources for creating new virtual instruments.</p></blockquote></div><p>This was the essence of the scholarly and &quot;charitable&quot; side of Pianoteq, true to its academic origin - using Pianoteq&#039;s ever-improving technology to &quot;preserve&quot; historical instrument.</p><p>The release of the two Kremsegg and the Karsten collection, however, seemed to spell the end of it - which might make sense to the business operations, but it feels like a betrayal of the original KIViR project.</p><p>I really love the variety that KIViR has, and the KIViR&#039;s Érard is one of my go-to instruments on Pianoteq, together with the K2 and the New York Steinway. And I won&#039;t lie, I love knowing that I am playing Badura-Skoda&#039;s own Walter pianoforte.</p><p>That is why I wanted to ask all of you what you think of KIViR, if you think is still supported / maintained / you are aware of improvement of any KIViR instrument in recent PTQ updates, or if the project is still alive at all and we can expect new KIViR releases.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Xain]]></name>
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