OT, performance as a plugin in a DAW is better than standalone for me for some strange reason??? Version 8.2.2
FYI , I have noticed the same thing. I find performance better when I use Pianoteq as an AUi instrument on Mac with Reaper than with the standalone version. Not really noticeable with recent silicon chips but very noticeable on older intel Macs.
]]>Assuming the PX-S5000 is on a level surface...
When white keys are played all the way down, they slope down toward the player. As I understand it, on a grand piano the white keys slope toward the harp when at rest and are level when fully played, i.e. flat.
Therefore I put two plastic (credit/bank etc.) cards under the feet of the PX-S5000 at each end at the front to correct this. It feels easier now to play evenly.
P.s. I'm using a single control point at 30x/50y with H1 on the Casio.
OT, performance as a plugin in a DAW is better than standalone for me for some strange reason??? Version 8.2.2
]]>The action is still like new.
Thank you for the reply. I do have a new Casio, as suggested. But I'd like to add to the discussion a caveat or two based on my recent experience. I think the PX-s5000 action is probably mid-tier, better than 1000-to-3100 (which have the notorious pivot length problems) and better than almost all the used keyboards available (various brands and models but many Clavinovas, some Rolands, and Casios: all of which were worn unevenly, mushy or too hard almost everywhere, with few exception), roughly comparable to various non-hybrid consoles like some Kawais (action is also a bit tough for me, except on their hybrid), and not as good as the Yamaha P525 (which is lighter and has a slightly weird key-heaviness gradient curve low to high-- but importantly for me lacks high-resolution MIDI output), or the Celviano hybrids. The s5000 is unevenly noisy in terms of black keys vs white, and to me not as pleasing as a new, less expensive PX-770, or the other Privias that share that action like PX-5S and such, various Nords, well maintained acoustic grands, a lovely refurbished Roland RD-700 I had the pleasure of encountering. Of course age, durability, reliability over time, and availability of repair make it all the more complicated. Sentimentality aside, my PX-5S is quite old and may never be quite right again so I would hesitate to re-buy that action even though I loved it new. And the 5000 has a nice smooth downstroke which just a touch of tactility representing a minimal escapement. On the other hand, the 5000 has a key release making the noises I mentioned that make it about as odd as can be, while still being playable. If I were to shop with a bigger budget, I might be looking at the Nords, the new Roland stages, and, as a dream digital option (after I befriend a piano mover), the top Celvianos.
]]>larrycalame wrote:sigasa wrote:REVIEW OF THE CASIO PX-S5000
I just wanted to say a great big thank you for my Casio PX-S5000 portable digital piano. I ordered it yesterday afternoon. It arrived around noon today (Thursday June 29th). I have been playing it on and off this afternoon and evening and absolutely love the feel of he action, the fact that I can play very very softly and control it at these low velocities, and they way it integrates with Modartt's Pianoteq. Casio have put much thought and expertise into the three high end pianos and the action reflects this markedly. I studied piano tuning, maintenance and repair so I have some idea of how a piano should respond to touch. Casio have done a fantastic job. The action is in some ways reminiscent of the original Casio scaled hammer action in the old CDP range in that one can really feel the mechanics, but in the case of the PX-S5000, with more finesse. Also I love the feel of the key bottoming out. It is very definite without being noisy or painful. In this aspect it reminds me of the Roland FP80. And I was pleasantly surprised that the keys when playing toward the fallboard/felt are not as difficult to trigger there as I thought they would be given the short pivot length.
All in all, I'm very impressed with Casios's work. Well done Casio and thank you Anderton's.
Warmest regards,
Christopher Christopher Webber
Chris, I've been considering getting one of the newer Casios (5000, 6000, 7000). I currently use a Roland FP-90x at home for Pianoteq, and a Casio PX-S1000 for live performance. The Roland has better action and a built-in USB audio, so I don't need an audio interface to use Pianoteq. The Casio is lightweight and portable, but does not really lend itself to using Pianoteq, as it requires and external audio interface which is then plugged into the Casio's audio inputs. I'm wondering if the newer Casios might allow me to use Pianoteq directly, via USB audio.
From the Casio Instruments UK website:
"The Casio PX-S5000 is the newest addition to the incredible PX-S portable Privia piano range.
With a wealth of new technology inside, including Bluetooth Audio streaming, wireless MIDI, enhanced AiR Piano modelling and USB Audio recording, Casio have added even more to their popular ultra-portable piano..."
I'm not entirely sure what "USB audio recording" entails, but to address your question, it seems you're asking if you can connect a USB cable from your laptop to the Casio, play Pianoteq, and have the audio output through the Casio's speakers as well as external speakers connected to the Casio. This capability is available on the Roland, but you're unsure if it's the same for the Casio.
]]>sigasa wrote:anyone has any questions?
How's the action after 6+ months?
Thanks!
I think I've had the PX-S5000 about one-and-a-half to two years now. The action is still like new. Mind you I cover it every time it's not in use. Stops dust getting in the sensors.
The only issue I've had is difficulty achieving smooth velocities in the lowest bass but I don't think it's a fault as such, but rather due to the short pivot length of the keys being harder to control.
I hope you enjoy your Casio.
Warmest regards,
Chris
]]>anyone has any questions?
How's the action after 6+ months?
Thanks!
]]>How are you finding the new 8.2 update now?
To be honest: I haven't noticed any huge differences yet. But I haven't explicitly compared them either. I just play.
If I had to say something right now: I have the impression that it sounds somehow more real in the sense of additional vibrations from the piano. In other words, the illusion that I'm sitting at a Steinway has become a little more credible. But that was already impressive before. And it still is now.
When I think how small the program is, how quickly it starts, how flexibly everything can be adjusted. It's a dream.
Tom
]]>I am currently practicing with the Steinway B. I found that it sounds a bit weird in my beginner class when I play beginner pieces with a grand piano like Model D. The Model B or an upright are more suitable.
I also have Velocity = [ 0, 120; 1, 127] and that suits me quite well.
Hi Tom,
Thank you for your reply. How are you finding the new 8.2 update now?
Warmest regards,
Chris
]]>I also have Velocity = [ 0, 120; 1, 127] and that suits me quite well.
]]>Hi guys,
May I ask how those who own a PX-S5000 and use it to control Pianoteq, are getting on with it?
Personally I love it with the new update release 8.2. and my current settings.
I'm using normal touch on the PX-S5000 with Pianoteq dynamics slider set to 15 and Pianoteq velocity curve:
Velocity = [ 0, 120; 1, 127]
I need to check what preset I'm using and what adjustments I may have made to it, but if anyone is interested, I'll let you know.
Also I could post an MP3?
Warmest regards,
Chris
P.s. I'm currently using the default 'Blüthner Classical BA Recording' preset with the above settings with a slight adjustment ('Medium Hall' reverb).
Warmest regards,
Chris
]]>May I ask how those who own a PX-S5000 and use it to control Pianoteq, are getting on with it?
Personally I love it with the new update release 8.2. and my current settings.
I'm using normal touch on the PX-S5000 with Pianoteq dynamics slider set to 15 and Pianoteq velocity curve:
Velocity = [ 0, 120; 1, 127]
I need to check what preset I'm using and what adjustments I may have made to it, but if anyone is interested, I'll let you know.
Also I could post an MP3?
Warmest regards,
Chris
]]>Thanks Chris for confirming that it's normal for the black keys to bounce a bit more and be a bit louder.
I'll keep the PX-S5000 and enjoy playing it either way. I was able to buy it very cheaply (around $600). And maybe in 1 to 2 years there will be a new exciting instrument. Maybe a PX-S7100 with built-in USB Audio...?
I hope you continue to have fun with the PX-S5000 + Pianoteq. A powerful combination.
All the best
Tom
Thank you Tom. All the very best,
Warmest regards,
Chris
]]>I'll keep the PX-S5000 and enjoy playing it either way. I was able to buy it very cheaply (around $600). And maybe in 1 to 2 years there will be a new exciting instrument. Maybe a PX-S7100 with built-in USB Audio...?
I hope you continue to have fun with the PX-S5000 + Pianoteq. A powerful combination.
All the best
Tom
My PX-S5000 has arrived. And I am basically very satisfied. As described here, the keybed feels much more balanced and quieter. It really allows very, very fine dynamic control. The upgrade from the PX-S1000 has paid off.
However, I have now noticed that it is primarily the white keys that are soft and quiet. The black keys are generally much louder. And about 3 black keys are also slightly louder than the others. For example, the C3#. I have recorded a video:
Frankly, since the white keys are now so quiet, it bothers me every time I hit a black key and it bounces so loudly.
Is this only the case with my keybed?
Yes, without the sound from Pianoteq or the PX-S5000's own sounds, the black keys do sound louder than the white keys on their release. However, if you use a realistic volume with Pianoteq or play the PX-S5000 at full volume, it shouldn't be an issue. To be perfectly honest, I don't notice it in normal playing.
Also I've stopped noticing the short pivot length. Just must have gotten used to it!
If you're not 100% satisfied, maybe return it and wait a month for the winter Namm 2024 where new musical instruments are debuted.
Just a suggestion.
Warmest regards,
Chris
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