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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ah, well this is where it gets complicated! </p><p>There are two ways of using Do-Re-Mi: <br />1) the &#039;fixed-do&#039; system, which is an absolute reference to the notes on the keyboard (Do = C). <br />2) the &#039;movable-do&#039; system (as mentioned by Pianotechenthusiast), used by singing teachers internationally, even in countries which use alphabetical note names. &#039;Do&#039; is set as the key note of the key you&#039;re singing in, for example F (so in this case Do Re Mi would be F G A). I imagine this can get incredibly confusing for students who learn the notes as Do Re Mi, especially if they have perfect pitch.</p><p>In the Rogers &amp; Hammerstein song, I&#039;m pretty sure they have in mind the movable-do system. &#039;Ti&#039; instead of &#039;Si&#039; tends to be preferred by English-speaking musicians - its origin seems to have been from a teacher who wanted to represent each step with a single letter: D R M F S L T D.<br />The &#039;meanings&#039; given to the solfege names were just made up by Hammerstein to make memorable rhymes! Even so, it&#039;s a very good song for learning solfege - a modern equivalent of Ut Queant Laxis. Each phrase begins on the next step of the scale.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazric]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey... let&#039;s take the movie The Sound of Music (1965). The famous song where Julie Andrews sings while give a meaning for each musical note. </p><p>&nbsp; How they translate that for each idiom? In my country, Brazil, we use Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Sol-La-Si (in the movie wad... Sol-La-Ti). We have a translated version to portuguese of J. Andrews lyrics. Of course the meaning given for each note is another as they had to find something to fit.</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/drnBMAEA3AM">https://youtu.be/drnBMAEA3AM</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-06-27T13:59:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> I used do re mi fa so la ti (not si) so that so could be G and si G#.&nbsp; C do, C# di, D re, D# ri, E mi, F fa, F#&nbsp; fi, G so, G# si, A la,&nbsp; A# li, B (H) ti, C do.&nbsp; solfa chromatic<br />Stig</p></blockquote></div><p>We use this system in the Netherlands, &quot;i&quot; is for sharp, &quot;e&quot; is for flat.<br />G# we sing &quot;si&quot;.<br />Gb we sing &quot;se&quot;<br />except Db, we sing &quot;ra&quot;</p><p>best wishes<br />k.c.Paul</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[k c Paul Li]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-06-26T05:49:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>With my musically interested students (10-12 years old) I used do re mi fa so la ti (not si) so that so could be G and si G#.&nbsp; C do, C# di, D re, D# ri, E mi, F fa, F#&nbsp; fi, G so, G# si, A la,&nbsp; A# li, B (H) ti, C do.&nbsp; solfa chromatic</p><p>For example, in the key of “C Major”, “Do” is “C”, but in the key of “F Major”, “Do” is “F”. Moveable.</p><p>With this system they could learn new simple melodies they never heard before, and using solfege hand signs. <a href="https://www.musictheorytutor.org/2013/03/25/solfege-hand-signs/">https://www.musictheorytutor.org/2013/0...and-signs/</a></p><p> Practicing this required music lessons every day so at that time I was privileged to have 1 hour of music every day (weekly schedule reduced maths, languages). After two years they could sing 2 and 3 voice songs.<br />But this was 45 years ago&nbsp; <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i>&nbsp; </p><p>All the best, everyone,</p><p>Stig</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pianoteqenthusiast]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-06-25T23:35:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Luc, that&#039;s really interesting! I got the &#039;Ut majeur&#039; from some classical CDs, so I suppose it is formal/academic usage.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-06-25T12:17:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Ut&quot; (instead of &quot;do&quot;) is rarely used in french nowadays, except for the name of the keys where it&#039;s always used. We (I&#039;m french speaking) use &quot;clé de sol, clé de fa et clé d&#039;ut&quot;. Nobody (to my knowledge) uses &quot;clé de do&quot;, I don&#039;t know why. &quot;Ut&quot; is sometimes used for some intruments names too: &quot;trompette en ut&quot; for example is quite common. &quot;Ut majeur&quot; can still be written from time to time but it sounds outdated ! <br />Just my 2 cents ;-)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-06-25T09:32:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, what I was really getting at was the reasons for French-speaking musicians retaining the &#039;ut&#039; for certain purposes. I guess it&#039;s an ingrained tradition thing, like German-speaking musicians still using H for B natural and B for B flat. In the UK, a lot of teachers still cling to the traditional names for note values (semibreve, minim, etc), even though the fractional names (whole note, half note...) make a lot more sense educationally!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-06-23T17:08:21Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thinking about different systems of naming musical notes (CDEFG... or Do Re Mi... etc.) led me to this fascinating resource: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/lingling40hrs/comments/uwxjec/music_notes_names_around_the_world/">https://www.reddit.com/r/lingling40hrs/...the_world/</a><br />Then I remembered that, in French, the key of C major is expressed as &#039;Ut majeur&#039;. After a little bit of digging, it seems that &#039;ut&#039; is an academic convention, used (for example) to signify the key of C rather than the note C (Do). Is that correct?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yep, all this comes from the middel ages, as a latin hymn (Gregorian chant) where it was supposedly used to teach music in the monasteries, because the verses used&nbsp; successive notes of the scale. Here it&#039;s very well explained: </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ut_queant_laxis">Wikipedia Link</a></p><p>BEST REGARDS</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-06-23T16:13:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about different systems of naming musical notes (CDEFG... or Do Re Mi... etc.) led me to this fascinating resource: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/lingling40hrs/comments/uwxjec/music_notes_names_around_the_world/">https://www.reddit.com/r/lingling40hrs/...the_world/</a><br />Then I remembered that, in French, the key of C major is expressed as &#039;Ut majeur&#039;. After a little bit of digging, it seems that &#039;ut&#039; is an academic convention, used (for example) to signify the key of C rather than the note C (Do). Is that correct?</p>]]></content>
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