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			<title><![CDATA[Re: somebody using pianoteq 8 with an old digital piano (from year 2000)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned my K2500 because this is the kb I normally use for pretty much everything. I also had an Alesis QS8 that I sold, but it was rather good too. I still have an Alesis Fusion 8HD, but I don&#039;t like its keyboard a lot, and I have a Yamaha MX88 that is quite good too. But the best one I have is... a Casio ! The PX350 (bought in 2012, no longer in production...)&nbsp; has a very very good action.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Luc Henrion)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2023 14:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: somebody using pianoteq 8 with an old digital piano (from year 2000)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sharpnine wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ve been playing (gigs, with a jazz group) with my old Roland RD-700 which dates to 2001. It has 64 megabytes of sample storage (yes that&#039;s MEGAbytes). Nothing by today&#039;s standards. It&#039;s keyboard is awesome and has held up well for 20 years. Nicer I have to say than my new Arturia Keylab 88 MKII. The Roland was a top-flight board in its day. It does not have USB (midi or audio).</p><p>I&#039;m playing it now through a 7th gen iPad running Pianoteq, using 5 pin midi, and it sounds awesome. The iPad interface is far easier to deal with than the board&#039;s hardware interface. I&#039;d say its main limitation for me is that it (the board) only supports on/off sustain pedal, it doesn&#039;t support half-pedaling. But in a gig that&#039;s hardly ever going to matter. I sold the two sound expansion boards I had long ago purchased for a good price on ebay--about as much as I paid for them originally. I don&#039;t need them anymore.</p></blockquote></div><p>My son stored his CP88 at college when he came home for the summer. While here, he&#039;s using my old 90&#039;s era Alesis QS8, which has a fairly well regarded Fatar TP-20 action. It also has 5-pin DIN MIDI but no USB. Are you using a normal audio interface to get MIDI to your iPad, or a MIDI to USB converter of some kind?</p><p>I&#039;ve read good things about the $60 CME WIDI Master, namely that the latency is actually low enough to be usable. CME also makes a $20 5-pin DIN MIDI to USB MIDI cable, the U2MIDI Pro, which builds the conversion chips into the USB-A plug at the end of the cable. Might have him get that if he doesn&#039;t want to risk using Bluetooth MIDI. I&#039;d like to hear the experience of anyone who&#039;s used any of CME&#039;s MIDI products (we have an Key Air 37 which has been flawless with Bluetooth MIDI).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 16:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: somebody using pianoteq 8 with an old digital piano (from year 2000)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Luc Henrion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My faithful Kurzweil K2500 dates back from 1996, I continue using it almost every single day of my life with Pianoteq. Please enter my post for the &quot;dinosaur&quot; contest ! <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>oh waw indeed and you don&#039;t think more digital pianos would have a better action etc? new ones have double escapement but i read that it has no effect in playing.so ..</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (yussef961)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Still using my Yamaha P-80 from around 2000. Keys are noisy though so I tend to play with noise-cancelling headphones...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Gilles)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 12:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: somebody using pianoteq 8 with an old digital piano (from year 2000)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>My faithful Kurzweil K2500 dates back from 1996, I continue using it almost every single day of my life with Pianoteq. Please enter my post for the &quot;dinosaur&quot; contest ! <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Luc Henrion)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 08:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>well since i&#039;m using Pianoteq with a Yamaha KX-88 from the early 90s, maybe i win the dinosaur prize <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> but yes, it works great with this slab, and replaces a sampled piano module from that time.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (budo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=990443#p990443</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>yes oh I know about memory lol my first computer had 64 kbytes of it of which 48kbytes where for data and 16kb or something for the os (in a sort of rom)<br />it had tapes because floppy disks were expensive (and these were 3 inch , not 3 inch and a half 180kbytes on each side)...<br />I then had an atari st with midi ports on it it was rare to have a computer with midi ports...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (yussef961)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 19:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: somebody using pianoteq 8 with an old digital piano (from year 2000)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>HI i am asking&nbsp; because some like me may not want to upgarde their digital piano... the sound is not as good as pianoteq (it is based on 2001 samples so...) I connected it to my computer with pianoteq in it.<br />I do love it and tested the required weight to make the key go down : between 60 and 80g exactly like a real one... I played too a real one when i was young.<br />I also have a marantz amplifier and cabasse mt 32 tower speaker very good and expressive...<br />other people do like me an old digial with pianoteq?<br />thx</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve been playing (gigs, with a jazz group) with my old Roland RD-700 which dates to 2001. It has 64 megabytes of sample storage (yes that&#039;s MEGAbytes). Nothing by today&#039;s standards. It&#039;s keyboard is awesome and has held up well for 20 years. Nicer I have to say than my new Arturia Keylab 88 MKII. The Roland was a top-flight board in its day. It does not have USB (midi or audio).</p><p>I&#039;m playing it now through a 7th gen iPad running Pianoteq, using 5 pin midi, and it sounds awesome. The iPad interface is far easier to deal with than the board&#039;s hardware interface. I&#039;d say its main limitation for me is that it (the board) only supports on/off sustain pedal, it doesn&#039;t support half-pedaling. But in a gig that&#039;s hardly ever going to matter. I sold the two sound expansion boards I had long ago purchased for a good price on ebay--about as much as I paid for them originally. I don&#039;t need them anymore.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sharpnine)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 19:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>yussef961 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>HI i am asking&nbsp; because some like me may not want to upgarde their digital piano... the sound is not as good as pianoteq (it is based on 2001 samples so...) I connected it to my computer with pianoteq in it.<br />I do love it and tested the required weight to make the key go down : between 60 and 80g exactly like a real one... I played too a real one when i was young.<br />I also have a marantz amplifier and cabasse mt 32 tower speaker very good and expressive...<br />other people do like me an old digial with pianoteq?<br />thx</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes using digital pianos midi/MIDI USB out is common. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>Pianoteq is night and day better than the short (and thin sounding) samples built into my Casio CDP. <br />That said Pianoteq is better than any built in sounds I&#039;ve heard so far from hardware, though i am sure there are many of pleasant sounding virtual pianos built in to the top digital pianos. </p><p>Most hardware pianos only have a handful of velocity layers, short samples and obviously no real potential for adjusting those sounds.<br />Combine that with small cheap drive units built into the plastic frames of digital pianos. </p><p>Pianoteq is a no brainer for old and new digitals alike. <br />If you wanted to find a piano collection to compete with Pianoteq (on sound quality grounds) you would have to start looking at hundreds of gigabytes, or even start looking at eating whole terabyte drives!!!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2023 15:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>HI i am asking&nbsp; because some like me may not want to upgarde their digital piano... the sound is not as good as pianoteq (it is based on 2001 samples so...) I connected it to my computer with pianoteq in it.<br />I do love it and tested the required weight to make the key go down : between 60 and 80g exactly like a real one... I played too a real one when i was young.<br />I also have a marantz amplifier and cabasse mt 32 tower speaker very good and expressive...<br />other people do like me an old digial with pianoteq?<br />thx</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2023 15:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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