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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The Definitive Presets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrea</p><p>I have read all the comments on this thread with interest. I also happen to think you are very brave to call your presets &#039;Definitive!&#039; Don&#039;t stop posting.</p><p>I have listened to some of your .fxp&#039;s, particularly the Bosendorfer. I believe that your Bosendorfer is very good, but, alas, on my equipement it doesn&#039;t sound like any of the recordings. I will tell you that I use Sony DJ MDR-V700 headphones and ESI nEar Experience 05 nearfield monitors. On both the monitors and the headphones the .fxp has a whining / singing treble. I sincerely believe that you should try out your .fxp&#039;s on headphones (good ones if you can afford them), just so you get a different perspective on the sound. Even better still, invest in the AKG&#039;s that Pianoteq use (the model is mentioned earlier on in this thread).</p><p>I can hear Boendorfer in your .fxp so don&#039;t change your .fxp yet. You could even record yourself playing the .fxp&nbsp; onto a CD and play it on different CD players / speakers to see what results you get. Only after you have heard the results do I suggest altering your settings. However, always keep a copy of the one that works on your HI Fi system speakers!</p><p>Below, I humbly include my own attempt at a Bosendorfer. It has sounds in it that I also hear in your Bosendorfer .fxp&#039;s.</p><p>Here&#039;s my attempt at a Bosendorfer?</p><p><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.php?file=Nocturne%20Bosendorfer%20attempt.mp3">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...ttempt.mp3</a></p><p>here&#039;s the .fxp</p><p><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.php?file=C3%20Solo%20Rec%20Variant%201%20Bosendorfer_.fxp">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...orfer_.fxp</a></p><p>Please don&#039;t feel I&#039;m criticising you, I&#039;m not.</p><p>And keep posting,</p><p>warm regards,</p><p>Chris</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-02-11T16:10:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Tail to tail grands.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>AndreaRugarli wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNZpuBX3mZQ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNZpuBX3mZQ</a></p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-02-02T18:29:22Z</updated>
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			<updated>2010-02-02T18:11:49Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mini documentary about Fazioli:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU6yRwy1Qe0&amp;feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU6yRwy1...re=related</a></p><p>Some pianists changed Steinway for Fazioli.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-20T02:41:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s another CD, and this one is in fact the F308 for sure:<br /><a href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ericmuhler">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ericmuhler</a></p><p>It&#039;s even in iTunes:<br /><a href="http://itunes.apple.com/au/album/something-new/id256421902">http://itunes.apple.com/au/album/someth...d256421902</a></p><p>More closely mic&#039;d, which is the sound I prefer.</p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-20T02:03:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Harald. Yes, I had in fact listened to the Fazioli demo recordings on their website.&nbsp; <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> (I&#039;ve emailed them, suggesting they include a list of works, like Bosendorfer do)</p><p>Here&#039;s a CD recorded on a Fazioli, but it doesn&#039;t say which model:<br /><a href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/lucillechung">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/lucillechung</a><br />It sounds like a typical ambient recording of a piano - not closely mic&#039;d.</p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-20T01:23:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>skip wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> this is. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i><br />Does anyone have some iTunes pointers to good solo Fazioli recordings?</p></blockquote></div><p>You can listen at Fazioli&#039;s homepage<br /><a href="http://www.fazioli.com/en/">http://www.fazioli.com/en/</a><br />and there are some clips at YouTube with ok sound quality</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y73GXGQhBN4">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y73GXGQhBN4</a></p><p>Here is a Fazioli and a Bosendorfer playing together</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5p4eyJ5VSI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5p4eyJ5VSI</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-20T00:29:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I like the Fazioli a lot - very bright and clear with none of the objectionable high frequency stuff I&#039;ve been complaining about whatsoever.&nbsp; It does remind me VERY much of an electric grand in the middle registers though - not sure how authentic this is. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> (from what Beto-Music is saying, it may not be authentic - it sounds good though)</p><p>Does anyone have some iTunes pointers to good solo Fazioli recordings?</p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-19T23:23:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Uhhnn... It&#039;s over &quot;faziolized&quot;...&nbsp; &nbsp; like too much exagerated fazioli characteristics.&nbsp; &nbsp;Too metalic, too thin.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>AndreaRugarli wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Done.......THE FAZIOLI F308 IS NOW AVAILABLE.........TRY IT!</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-19T17:02:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Done.......THE FAZIOLI F308 IS NOW AVAILABLE.........TRY IT!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-18T21:58:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i appreciate that beto-music <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> ........I&#039;m preparing the Fazioli F308</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-18T16:50:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Andrea, keep preparing more FXP, you are very good with pianoteq adjustments.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-16T18:35:57Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A good system helps a lot, yes.<br />but if woodness lack was only due a inaproprieted sound system, the sampled libraries would also lack woodness.</p><p>The Roland F-90 have speakers that got elogies in many reviews.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://waltonspianos.com/products/images/13arol-f90.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span> </p><p>They are adjusted to the sound of pianos.</p><p>But you are right about many things, and other forum members had said pianoteq sound much better in a good professional system. This is true to all piano softwares, I think,</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>AndreaRugarli wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A part from that note, i would like to make a consideration.<br />I said what my audio system is a few posts ago, and i firmly believe that the final step to achieve a real piano sound is to have a proper &quot;reproduction&quot; part. With my system, i really can&#039;t ask for more, i mean, the resonance, the presence, dynamics and detail are all really convincing and you can&#039;t imagine what pianoteq potentialities actually are. The balance of the tonality and the warmness of my speakers DO really make the difference, not to be annoying, but just to say that&nbsp; maybe when you mention that pianoteq lacks wood resonance, you may be partially wrong as your speakers may not reveal the actual pianoteq&#039;s sound.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-13T23:16:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A part from that note, i would like to make a consideration.<br />I said what my audio system is a few posts ago, and i firmly believe that the final step to achieve a real piano sound is to have a proper &quot;reproduction&quot; part. With my system, i really can&#039;t ask for more, i mean, the resonance, the presence, dynamics and detail are all really convincing and you can&#039;t imagine what pianoteq potentialities actually are. The balance of the tonality and the warmness of my speakers DO really make the difference, not to be annoying, but just to say that&nbsp; maybe when you mention that pianoteq lacks wood resonance, you may be partially wrong as your speakers may not reveal the actual pianoteq&#039;s sound.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-13T23:03:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s not a speaker interference, but the sound of this only note have a singing that remamber a bit.<br />It indeed exist in some notes of some old uprights pianos. But for me it&#039;s like a defect, or a defect of a real piano.</p><p>I use my Roland F-90 digital piano speakers.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>AndreaRugarli wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>well, with my speakers there is no harshness there, which speakers do you use?</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-13T22:49:56Z</updated>
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