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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Safe and Practical Setups for LIVE Laptop Use- Suggestions?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Michael H wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Very Cool Eran! What a nice, efficient setup, and it doesn&#039;t take a lot of space either, and it looks good! I like that everything is within easy reach. </p><p>Looks like having those music stand holes on your keyboard made it possible. Perhaps I could drill a few holes? <br /><i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p><p>Thanks for putting the pictures up, you&#039;ve given me some good ideas! BTW, nice keyboard that Roland.</p><br /><p>Regards,<br />Michael</p></blockquote></div><p>thanks,<br />it took some evolutionary steps until i got to this point ...<br />my previous setup was made of a cradle made of plastic water hoses that sled into&nbsp; the music stand (one of its top pipes) and held the laptop reclining on the keys. I liked it (was very light) - but i didn&#039;t have the sound card back then</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etalmor]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-10T21:23:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In fact these are bolts (thanks for the correction Micheal).<br />I added a couple of nuts on each bolt so that i have a better grip.<br />It&#039;s not the keyboard&#039;s original bolts - because i needed some extra length to hold the brackets.</p><p>The weight does hold the brackets in place - they recline against the keyboard body on their bottom. The fact that the keys are 18 kilos help balance the weight of the gear ...</p><p>The only thing i don&#039;t like about this setup is that the hard drive is exposed to shaking when I hit the keys ... maybe sometime in the future i&#039;ll get an SSD ...</p><p>- Eran</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etalmor]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-10T21:04:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Safe and Practical Setups for LIVE Laptop Use- Suggestions?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What did you use, screws or bolts for the shelf? And I guess the weight above keeps the bracket pressed against the keyboard?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-10T20:40:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Safe and Practical Setups for LIVE Laptop Use- Suggestions?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very Cool Eran! What a nice, efficient setup, and it doesn&#039;t take a lot of space either, and it looks good! I like that everything is within easy reach. </p><p>Looks like having those music stand holes on your keyboard made it possible. Perhaps I could drill a few holes? <br /><i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p><p>Thanks for putting the pictures up, you&#039;ve given me some good ideas! BTW, nice keyboard that Roland.</p><br /><p>Regards,<br />Michael</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-10T20:35:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So here&#039;s my setup (without cables)</p><p>keys &amp; DIY shelf apart</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_DZnMss_ApQg/S0okguYRaCI/AAAAAAAABJ4/cQvIptJzT8I/s512/IMG_4937.JPG" alt="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_DZnMss_ApQg/S0okguYRaCI/AAAAAAAABJ4/cQvIptJzT8I/s512/IMG_4937.JPG" title="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_DZnMss_ApQg/S0okguYRaCI/AAAAAAAABJ4/cQvIptJzT8I/s512/IMG_4937.JPG"/></span></p><p>shelf mounted on keys<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DZnMss_ApQg/S0olNdfcdBI/AAAAAAAABKY/mJ-bHBAu92o/s720/IMG_4938.JPG" alt="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DZnMss_ApQg/S0olNdfcdBI/AAAAAAAABKY/mJ-bHBAu92o/s720/IMG_4938.JPG" title="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DZnMss_ApQg/S0olNdfcdBI/AAAAAAAABKY/mJ-bHBAu92o/s720/IMG_4938.JPG"/></span></p><p>keys + laptop + m-audio pro-fire 610 + korg nano<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DZnMss_ApQg/S0oknfNAzJI/AAAAAAAABJ8/plX8aeP9LLo/s720/IMG_4940.JPG" alt="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DZnMss_ApQg/S0oknfNAzJI/AAAAAAAABJ8/plX8aeP9LLo/s720/IMG_4940.JPG" title="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DZnMss_ApQg/S0oknfNAzJI/AAAAAAAABJ8/plX8aeP9LLo/s720/IMG_4940.JPG"/></span></p><p>b.t.w I don&#039;t turn pages during playing - it&#039;s jazz charts, so they&#039;re short - just improvising on the changes. Between parts, i flip the pdf pages via bookmarks or html links into a specific pdf doc+page.</p><p>regards,<br />Eran</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etalmor]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-10T19:26:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Greg, good thought! </p><p>Hmmm..a backup computer wouldn&#039;t even have to be cosmetically great, just fully functional. Nice.</p><p>Michael</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-10T00:04:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Note that the military have a system they call &quot;COTS&quot;, standing for &quot;Commercial Off The Shelf&quot;. It&#039;s for situations where they decide that rather than spend a fortune on mil-spec equipment, it would be better to just have some spare, cheap, commercial grade units that could be used if a fault develops.&nbsp; &nbsp;If I were going to go live with my laptop, I think I&#039;d follow this approach.</p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-09T23:49:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eran,</p><p>Thanks for sharing your setup info. Yeah, I think you’re right, simplest would be best- I definitely need to keep reminding myself that.</p><p>Yours sounds like a great setup! I especially like that you can have music/charts displayed using your laptop and Adobe Acrobat, so you&#039;re not giving up your music stand function. How do you &#039;turn pages&#039; with that? If you have a photo of that shelf hookup I&#039;d love to see it. </p><p>In my case, attaching a homemade shelf to the keyboard stand itself might be doable (no music stand unfortunately). The one aspect of my setup that I&#039;m satisfied with so far is my midi and soundcard hookup, which takes hardly any space at all. I use an Echo Indigo PC slot card for audio, and an Edirol UM-1 USB adapter for midi. Both the latency and sound quality are very good.</p><p>Best,<br />Michael</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-09T23:36:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p><p>I believe that you should try to keep it as simple as possible.<br />I currently use a laptop and an external sound card on stage.<br />I use the existing music-stand screws of my keyboard (roland fp3) to attach a simple DIY shelf (made of wood), that supports the laptop and a (firewire) sound card. This way I can operate everything directly. </p><p>By the way I read charts off the laptop screen using acrobat reader.</p><p>Moreover, to control vst parameters I use a korg nano-kontrol via usb.<br />That&#039;s 4 devices (keys+laptop+sound card+korg nano) and 4 cables (usb, firewire, midi, pl).<br />I&#039;d like to carry less, but I wouldn&#039;t like to sacrifice controllability and sound...</p><p>regards,<br />Eran</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-01-09T20:50:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Panasonic and others make ruggedized laptops.&nbsp; Not cheap though:</p><p><a href="http://www.panasonic.com/business/Toughbook/toughbook-products.asp">http://www.panasonic.com/business/Tough...oducts.asp</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[feeble]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-09T07:27:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Safe and Practical Setups for LIVE Laptop Use- Suggestions?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m a firm believer that if we could make it easy to bring and use a laptop on gigs, many of us would say goodbye to digital keyboards altogether, and wouldn&#039;t even consider them anymore. Then we&#039;d just need a good controller- no more digital pianos and workstations that go obsolete in a few years.</p><p>So, are there any live laptop users here who can recommend their own working system, or ways of putting one together, that are:</p><p>~ solid and safe (because laptops are fragile); and <br />~ practical to transport and gig with (because big rolling racks and roadies aren&#039;t for most of us)?</p><p>Personally, I&#039;m considering a 6-8 space rack system with a sliding shelf: start Pianoteq and other programs and a host like Cantabile, close the lid (use a laptop cooler), slide it back in the rack, control everything remotely. The main problem is that it&#039;s bulky. If a netbook could handle it- with a little velcro- it would be a no-brainer <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>Michael</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-01-09T03:25:06Z</updated>
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