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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Another question for Techies]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The onboard sound is being played by Local Control, direct from the keyboard, and is subject only to keyboard scan time and response time of the sound engine - probably less than 2ms total. The pianoteq sound is subject to the keyboard scan time, MIDI transmission time, response time of the app, audio buffer latency, D/A conversion time, and unreported hardware/firmware bus latencies. These can easily add up to a noticeable 8-10ms or more. When played together the two sound sources should just give you a little “phasyness”. Hearing a distinct delay starts around 20ms.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[brundlefly]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-12-17T19:48:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Another question for Techies]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Sanderxpander wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>USB to host means that your piano accepts a host (like a computer) on the other end of the connection. So your described behavior is entirely expected. Plug in headphones or other speakers on your piano to improve the sound, and don&#039;t forget to make sure you&#039;re not hearing both the internal sound of your piano AND Pianoteq (depends on how your keyboard manages this).</p><p>USB to device means that your device can act as a host to hook up other devices to (e.g. USB sticks or other, usually &quot;class compliant&quot; midi controllers/keyboards). Many modern workstations have this capability, your piano does not.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks to you both. I understand now. I find I have to make sure the 725 is switched off before I open Pianoteq, otherwise it chooses the piano for its output on preference to my UR22. This has only happened since I upgraded to Standard and Pianoteq 8: only a matter of remembering.</p><p>When I do play Pianoteq and the internal sound simultaneously I can just tell that the internal sound plays a fraction of a second before the PTQ note. Hardly noticeable but it&#039;s there. My PTQ is running at 4.4ms so presumably there&#039;s a bit more latency somewhere else in the system. Interestingly, before this issue cropped up I was conscious that playing the 725 with its own audio was a more &quot;immediate&quot; experience than with PTQ - a feeling of being in more direct contact with the instrument. It seems even a very small latency can be felt, even if it is too small to be heard.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Panicking Ant]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-12-16T10:43:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Another question for Techies]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>USB to host means that your piano accepts a host (like a computer) on the other end of the connection. So your described behavior is entirely expected. Plug in headphones or other speakers on your piano to improve the sound, and don&#039;t forget to make sure you&#039;re not hearing both the internal sound of your piano AND Pianoteq (depends on how your keyboard manages this).</p><p>USB to device means that your device can act as a host to hook up other devices to (e.g. USB sticks or other, usually &quot;class compliant&quot; midi controllers/keyboards). Many modern workstations have this capability, your piano does not.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sanderxpander]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-12-14T18:13:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Another question for Techies]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Panicking Ant wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My Yamaha CLP-725 has USB to host but not USB to device.&nbsp; I know this because Mr Yamaha tells me so. I have recently discovered that PTQ and my computer recognise the 725 as an &quot;Output Device&quot; and will play PTQ recordings and other audio through the 725&#039;s on board speakers via the USB to host socket. The sound is not good, because of the poor quality of the 725&#039;s speakers/amplifier, but I am surprised to hear it at all. Anyone know what&#039;s going on?</p></blockquote></div><p>Per page 28 of the manual, the USB MIDI port doubles as a digital audio interface for both input and ouput:</p><p>&quot;You can play back audio data on a smart device or a computer with this<br />instrument. You can also record your keyboard performance as audio data to a<br />music production app on a smart device or a computer.&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[brundlefly]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-12-14T16:22:09Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=987160#p987160</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Another question for Techies]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My Yamaha CLP-725 has USB to host but not USB to device.&nbsp; I know this because Mr Yamaha tells me so. I have recently discovered that PTQ and my computer recognise the 725 as an &quot;Output Device&quot; and will play PTQ recordings and other audio through the 725&#039;s on board speakers via the USB to host socket. The sound is not good, because of the poor quality of the 725&#039;s speakers/amplifier, but I am surprised to hear it at all. Anyone know what&#039;s going on?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Panicking Ant]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-12-14T15:32:43Z</updated>
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