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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nord Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I own two Waves -the only keyboard by Clavia that I&#039;m familiar with- so obviously, I dig it.&nbsp; Sampling Pianoteq -and anything else- for the Wave is a piece of cake.&nbsp; Of course, doesn&#039;t replace the Pianoteq software... just more options for live performance and sound experimentation.&nbsp; Only complaint I had with Clavia is their shipping cartons.&nbsp; Some knobs were bent on one of my Waves because there was little space and no padding between the control surface and the sides of the corrugated box.&nbsp; So far I&#039;ve only had one knob stuck on Pianoteq after a download -and it turned out to be mouse lint...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Cellomangler]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-30T04:40:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nord Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dhalfen wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>davidka91 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>/Sorry fo OT/<br />But f*ck Clavia, why don&#039;t they do something about the Modular? Instead they release a stage piano, as if there wouldn&#039;t be enough already.<br />It&#039;ll be a shame if they&#039;d leave the modular completely.<br />/OT off/</p></blockquote></div><p>Nothing to apologize about -- I couldn&#039;t agree more with you.&nbsp; I <em>thought</em> they were a good company, so I bought the Electro 2 (and was going to get the double-manual organ, too!), only to find out that their forward-thinking support for it is zilch!&nbsp; Soon came the Electro 3, a totally new, enhanced product, and their response for support was essentially, &quot;Hey, we&#039;re only focused on making _new_ products!&quot;&nbsp; Great -- so I paid $1,500 or so (at the time) for a device which they made obsolete in a fairly short time-span, with no interest in ever improving it...</p><p>I would avoid Clavia, based on this experience.&nbsp; Fool me once, shame on you -- fool me twice, shame on me!</p><p>:-)</p></blockquote></div><p>If I understand these critics, Clavia&#039;s main sin is to make too many hardware updates, am I right? So there are angry Electro 2 owners who bought their instrument on day D and next day Clavia released Electro 3 with quite same price. To a certain degree I agree with those critics. Maybe Clavia is making new models that are too close to older ones. </p><p>BUT: they are developing things. Give another company which is giving free sounds via internet and updating their product&#039;s OS many times a year. Compared to the Yamaha which is a company that doesn&#039;t give us anything new, or is it? And Roland is a master of developing new things but forgetting them right a way. (For example they developed ARX-(or Supernatural) - card series but didn&#039;t give any good cards). I wouldn&#039;t buy Roland V-piano because I have reason to believe that Roland won&#039;t make it any better in future...</p><p>Clavia&#039;s main thing is that their products aren&#039;t 16 channel multitimbral all-around workstations with all sounds with compromised quality. When you buy Electro, C1, Stage (or Nord Piano) you&#039;ll have no drum sets or ukulele etc. Just few sounds that are quite good and can you choose your own sounds from internet. That&#039;s why so many professionals like it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ecaroh]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-28T22:45:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nord Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>fatar actions have been problematic also!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sigasa]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-28T22:35:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nord Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>davidka91 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>/Sorry fo OT/<br />But f*ck Clavia, why don&#039;t they do something about the Modular? Instead they release a stage piano, as if there wouldn&#039;t be enough already.<br />It&#039;ll be a shame if they&#039;d leave the modular completely.<br />/OT off/</p></blockquote></div><p>Nothing to apologize about -- I couldn&#039;t agree more with you.&nbsp; I <em>thought</em> they were a good company, so I bought the Electro 2 (and was going to get the double-manual organ, too!), only to find out that their forward-thinking support for it is zilch!&nbsp; Soon came the Electro 3, a totally new, enhanced product, and their response for support was essentially, &quot;Hey, we&#039;re only focused on making _new_ products!&quot;&nbsp; Great -- so I paid $1,500 or so (at the time) for a device which they made obsolete in a fairly short time-span, with no interest in ever improving it...</p><p>I would avoid Clavia, based on this experience.&nbsp; Fool me once, shame on you -- fool me twice, shame on me!</p><p>:-)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dhalfen]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-28T19:25:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nord Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Fatar is of good quality. <br />/Sorry fo OT/<br />But f*ck Clavia, why don&#039;t they do something about the Modular? Instead they release a stage piano, as if there wouldn&#039;t be enough already.<br />It&#039;ll be a shame if they&#039;d leave the modular completely.<br />/OT off/</p><p>The update system is a neat idea. You just upload whatever you want into the piano, quickly. <i class="far fa-grin-tongue-squint smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[davidka91]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-28T17:58:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nord Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>From the photo, it looks like a big toy, no ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[michaelmathy]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-28T14:50:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Nord Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>One more option for a piano &amp; midi controller:</p><p><a href="http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/12/19/2010-namm-show-preview-the-nord-piano/">http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/...ord-piano/</a></p><p>I personally like many things with Clavia&#039;s products:</p><p>+ you can download your favourite piano sounds freely from internet and company is updating these sounds quite often.<br />+ sound quality is good in general<br />+ Clavia&#039;s Effects are good<br />+ Now their pianos have String Resonance function (?)</p><p>Let&#039;s see if they&#039;ve managed to improve these:</p><p>- keyboard (they&#039;ve been using Fatar and I&#039;m not sure about the quality). <br />- MIDI: Clavia&#039;s products have USB connector but it doesn&#039;t transfer midi data. Also other midi functions are terrible if you plan to use it as a mother keyboard.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ecaroh]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-26T16:27:31Z</updated>
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